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The victim - named by neighbours as 83-year-old Irene Mayor - is seriously ill in hospital after a collision with the Duke and Duchess's convoy as they travelled to Windsor

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An elderly woman has been critically injured by a police outbike rider in Prince William and Kate Middleton's royal convoy.

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge were leaving London to take part in a ceremony at Windsor Castle when Monday’s accident happened.

The victim has been named by neighbours as 83-year-old Irene Mayor.

She is believed to have been knocked down by the police escort in Richmond, West London.

The Palace confirmed the Duke and Duchess have extended their heartfelt sympathies to Mrs Mayor's family.

A statement issued by Buckingham Palace on behalf of the Cambridges tonight said: "The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge were deeply concerned and saddened to hear about the accident on Monday afternoon.

"Their Royal Highnesses have sent their very best regards to Irene and her family and will stay in touch throughout every stage of her recovery."

The Palace's spokeswoman confirmed the Royals have sent flowers and a handwritten note to Mrs Mayor and plan to visit her in hospital.

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A few years back (2010?) I was going in the opposite direction to one of these Royal convoys carrying the Queen nr Maldon Essex and it was bombing along an A road as if they owned the road ;-) - forcing cars to pull over, even those coming in the other direction.

Not surprised a commoner has got steamrollered and looks like it occured at a crossing

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and bearing in mind this recent case the motorcyclist could very well be at fault whatever the circumstances > https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/y ... ar-AAD3icB
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Considering she was 83 years old it begs the question whether sirens would be more affective than whistles or maybe one bike should remain at any crossings until the convey has passed. They hang about at junctions but do they hang about at crossings. They certainly keep things moving as a moving target is harder to hit unless your a pedestrian.
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Was she staring at her smart phone?
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We have another debate right there. I'm disgusted how cyclists are being blamed for hitting these idiots on their smartphones. Instead of a cyclist being armed with a bell they should be armed with a taser. That could have just as easily been a pedestrian stepping out in front of a motorcycle. The biggest problem is our archaic laws that are no longer fit for purpose in today's society. There is some law that goes back to the 1800's that makes the cyclist responsible if hitting a pedestrian.
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87 year old lady hit by a cop riding on wrong side of road. She had it comin.
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There is some law that goes back to the 1800's that makes the cyclist responsible if hitting a pedestrian.

? "wanton or furious cycling" ?

S35 of the Offences Against the Person Act 1861 (as amended by the Criminal Justice Act 1948 (c. 58), s. 1(2)) is as follows: “35. Drivers of carriages injuring persons by furious driving Whosoever, having the charge of any carriage or vehicle, shall by wanton or furious driving or racing, or other wilful misconduct, or by wilful neglect, 'riding like a Hippo' ) do or cause to be done any bodily harm to any person whatsoever, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and being convicted thereof shall be liable, at the discretion of the court, to be imprisoned for any term not exceeding two years.”

Didn't help himself with his attitude and not having a front brake! https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl ... pedestrian

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/ ... 35881.html

Still awaiting this to go to court
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Yep I think that's the one 'wanton and furious driving' Offences Against the Person Act 1861
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/24-25/100/section/35

Basically any accident involving a cyclist and pedestrian then the cyclist is presumed liable. Now if we was in Holland then things would be a whole lot different and I think the UK justice system needs to take a leaf out of their book. A lot of our laws where brought out back in the days of horse and cart days and then got passed onto cyclists when the Penny Farthing came out and motor vehicles. It's seen that we are supposed to give way to pedestrians and it does not matter if they are on an official crossing or not. We don't have jaywalking laws in this country.

It will be interesting to see if any charges are brought against the police motorcyclist because the same laws should apply there but I doubt anything will happen as also with our laws there are double standards and exemptions can be made. One rule for one and a different rule for another, in fact if you have enough money for a good lawyer then you can get away with murder literally or maybe you have some money to pay off the jury or judge as is often the case with larger criminal organisations and a quite word can be had outside the courthouse. There are exceptions there too and that is if it's a high profile case where the media are involved and / or examples need to be made. In that situation is doesn't even matter if your guilty or not as with the Guildford four. Similar to the ISIS girl case, although I think they made the right decision, technically they went against the law because of media coverage and peoples anger and it turned more from a legal case into a political case.
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I rarely see Jays on the road, but Magpies- that's a different game.

To modern use the rules and make them more relevant to today's road conditions I propose that we have an ineffectual and unenforceable Magpie-walking law instead if a jaywalking one, which we could then all ignore on the grounds that we were looking it up on our smartphones when the unfortunate incident occurred.

Who's with me?

Let's march on Parliament to lobby the Prime Minister, oh, wait a moment........
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Sounds like a plan but first I think we should convert Big Ben onto a giant cuckoo clock. :lol:
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Is it just me that thinks of the incident as very ironic ?
This was a cop who sole purpose was to keep an eye open for any obstructions, be it vehicles or pedestrians !
Only to run over an elderly woman ! Hardly a fast moving unavoidable subject.
I wonder what would happen if I did it ? I wonder what happens because it was an on duty cop ?
Same outcome I wonder ? Nope... I don't think so either :x
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He will probably get removed from royal escort duty and demoted back down to regular motorcycle traffic duties. That's my guess. Or it will get swept under the carpet and we wont hear anything as there is so much political crap in the media as a distraction right now.
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VTRDark wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:11 pm He will probably get removed from royal escort duty and demoted back down to regular motorcycle traffic duties. That's my guess. Or it will get swept under the carpet and we wont hear anything as there is so much political crap in the media as a distraction right now.
We would feel lucky not to go to prison lol
Banned for a good period for sure. Same guy would have being giving a lecture to some poor motorist for doing 79 on a 70 on a virtual deserted dual carriage way. That got me 3 points grrrrrr
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To be fair he was only doing his duty and probably extremely proud to be a royal escort and accidents can happen. The difference is that he will most likely only get a slap on the wrist whereas if it was one of us we would be in big trouble. Like I said earlier one rule for one and another rule for another. It's a tricky one because if so called professionals are put in a position of responsibility where they can get charged if something goes wrong it can prevent folk from wanting to do the job. Imagine if every doctor who's patient died got locked up for manslaughter or every teacher got fined for everything a pupil done wrong. It's like the issue with the soldiers for Northern Ireland at the moment. Should they be charged for what they did. At what point is one held accountable for their actions especially if they have been brainwashed by the system.

The problem is having the rules and laws to begin with. Something along the lines of the 10 commandments is all that is needed for us to be decent human beings, nothing more and nothing less as all the rest is trivial and only in place as a power trip for control and enslavement or as a revenue maker to fill the pockets of those in power or helping to bring in revenue. She probably only got knocked down because the crossing was there. If it wasn't there and she crossed anywhere it may not have happened. Our road systems would run better if all the rules where removed so people used their common sense and intelligence rather than following instructions. Maybe we are beyond that now as most folk have lost all common sense and intelligence and brainwashed into trying to follow the system. Things seem to work better in places like Thailand or India where it's all simplified. So actually the motorcycle is not even at fault, the system is at fault.
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VTRDark wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:29 am

The problem is having the rules and laws to begin with. Something along the lines of the 10 commandments is all that is needed for us to be decent human beings, nothing more and nothing less as all the rest is trivial and only in place as a power trip for control and enslavement or as a revenue maker to fill the pockets of those in power or helping to bring in revenue. She probably only got knocked down because the crossing was there. If it wasn't there and she crossed anywhere it may not have happened. Our road systems would run better if all the rules where removed so people used their common sense and intelligence rather than following instructions. Maybe we are beyond that now as most folk have lost all common sense and intelligence and brainwashed into trying to follow the system. Things seem to work better in places like Thailand or India where it's all simplified. So actually the motorcycle is not even at fault, the system is at fault.
What a stupid comment!

Sorry but whilst you & me might be able to 'use their common sense and intelligence' there are far too many fekwits out there who shoudn't even be allowd to get out of bed in the morning let alone drive a ton + of lethal weapon about without any rules in place...theres enough of them out there who seem to think the rules that are there don't apply to them anyway...

Now go & do some research about road deaths in Thailand & India & come back to us...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-38660283

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... death_rate
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