CCT (Cam Chain Tensioner) Fail Safe Mod. (aka Stopper Mod)

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Re: CCT (Cam Chain Tensioner) Fail Safe Mod. (aka Stopper Mo

Post by IanPowell » Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:57 pm

Hi darkember, just noticed you're based in Abergavenny, as am I... small world!

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Re: CCT (Cam Chain Tensioner) Fail Safe Mod. (aka Stopper Mo

Post by sirch345 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:50 am

IanPowell wrote:Hi guys, thanks for the advice. I'm not one to rush into things without knowing exactly what im doing, hence the question. I have read the step by step guide a number of times but it does assume that you know what to do with the key in order to lock it, and sorry, but its not obvious to me from the guide (it simply says lock it off). I think it could help slightly less experienced members to be more explicit ( maybe producing a dummies guide to the stopper mod :D ). I absolutely understand the importance of the timing and I have no problem with that (the guide is very clear).. my question was not relating to that just the finer detail of the locking off the cct.

Again, thanks for the advice. I'll let you know how i get on.
Ian, that's a relief :) I understand what you are getting at now.

The meaning behind locking the CCT off involves pushing the locking key in that bit further into the back end of the CCT. You can only do that once the key is lined up with two of the slots in the back end of the CCT. Once the key has gone into the back end of the CCT that bit further, it has dropped down into two of the mentioned slots, it can then no longer be turned by hand. You have then locked the key off, if you took you hand of the locking key it would stay exactly where you locked it off. Do you follow that now?

I'll try to put up a photo or two soon to show that, as like you say it may help others as well.

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Re: CCT (Cam Chain Tensioner) Fail Safe Mod. (aka Stopper Mo

Post by darkember » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:29 pm

IanPowell wrote:Hi darkember, just noticed you're based in Abergavenny, as am I... small world!
Which part?? I'm out on the Hereford road near the Squid pub :plainsmile

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Re: CCT (Cam Chain Tensioner) Fail Safe Mod. (aka Stopper Mo

Post by IanPowell » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:47 pm

Hi Chris, that's great, completely understand that now.
Which part?? I'm out on the Hereford road near the Squid pub
Gilwern, not too far away. I pass that way regularly, so keep an ear out for my blue flames... If the bikes not trashed after the stopper'ectomy on the weekend :)

Cheers again,
Ian

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Post by sirch345 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:18 am

IanPowell wrote:Hi Chris, that's great, completely understand that now.

Cheers again,
Ian
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Re: CCT (Cam Chain Tensioner) Fail Safe Mod. (aka Stopper Mo

Post by rhys0019 » Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:08 am

Any body know how much a garage charges to change the the cam chain tensioner.? And how often they have to be changed.?

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Post by bigtwinthing » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:00 pm

rhys0019 wrote:Any body know how much a garage charges to change the the cam chain tensioner.? And how often they have to be changed.?
£100 to change to manuals if you supply them down here.Not bad in my opinion. mine took me 3 hrs to do myself. but i was so careful and didn't want to start it for 30 mins as i was crapping myself. :lol:
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Post by tony.mon » Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:04 pm

rhys0019 wrote:Any body know how much a garage charges to change the the cam chain tensioner.? And how often they have to be changed.?
Where are you in the country?

If near me, I charge £60 if you supply, same for the stopper mod, and I'll throw in a carb balance.

Ride in ride out, Sevenoaks, kent, near Brands Hatch.
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Post by bigtwinthing » Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:56 am

tony.mon wrote:
rhys0019 wrote:Any body know how much a garage charges to change the the cam chain tensioner.? And how often they have to be changed.?
Where are you in the country?

If near me, I charge £60 if you supply, same for the stopper mod, and I'll throw in a carb balance.

Ride in ride out, Sevenoaks, kent, near Brands Hatch.
And any money made goes to fund improvements and research :lol:
Thats a great price Tony, I've have been tempted if i,d have known at the time.
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Re: CCT (Cam Chain Tensioner) Fail Safe Mod. (aka Stopper Mo

Post by cola414 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:08 pm

What exactly is the locking key needed for when removing the tensioner? :confused

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Post by VTRDark » Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:26 pm

If you visualise the inside of the tensioner have a plus sign cut outs, so divided into four 1/4's, therefore when the key is turned it can slot into any of these cuts out which locks the worm drive into position. The worm retracts or detracts the tensioner and spring within it. :thumbup:

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Post by cola414 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:25 pm

cybercarl wrote:If you visualise the inside of the tensioner have a plus sign cut outs, so divided into four 1/4's, therefore when the key is turned it can slot into any of these cuts out which locks the worm drive into position. The worm retracts or detracts the tensioner and spring within it. :thumbup:

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So,I assume if the tensioner is taken out without being locked off the worm will drop out into the engine?

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Re: CCT (Cam Chain Tensioner) Fail Safe Mod. (aka Stopper Mo

Post by AMCQ46 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:28 pm

No, the CCT won't fall part it if you don't lock it, it will just go to full extension
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Post by cola414 » Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:18 pm

AMCQ46 wrote:No, the CCT won't fall part it if you don't lock it, it will just go to full extension
So,if it is being removed why the need to lock it in the first place? :confused

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Post by AMCQ46 » Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:38 pm

cola414 wrote:
AMCQ46 wrote:No, the CCT won't fall part it if you don't lock it, it will just go to full extension
So,if it is being removed why the need to lock it in the first place? :confused
You need to lock kit to take the measurements for the stopper mod... Also it will provide a guide length for manual CCTs
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