Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs

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Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs

Post by TravisZack » Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:07 pm

Ahh ok, they do look good but in that case I'll class it as a chance purchase should something cheap appear :thumbup:

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Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs

Post by bigtwinthing » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:07 pm

5 spoke VFR800 rear wheels don't fit a Storm, Varadero or Blade. they do fit the CB1000r though, crap wrong forum!!! You guys do know your stuff though. :thumbup:
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Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs

Post by fatfreddy000 » Tue May 16, 2017 10:26 pm

Varastorm wrote:Old thread I know, but just to sort out any confusion about what discs what fits what bike/wheels :thumbup: .

VTR 1000F Discs.

•Thickness: 4.5mm (0.17’’)
•Outer: 29.6cm (11.6’’)
•Inner: 5.8cm (2.3’’)
•Distance of screws: 3.7cm (1.46’’)

Compatible for Honda:
•CB 600 HORNET 2000-2006
•VFR 750 F 1994-1997
•CBR 600 F3 1995-1998
•CBR 900 RR 94-97
•VTR 1000 F FIRESTORM/SUPERHAWK 1997-2006
•CB 250 HORNET 1996-now
•RS 125 R 1991-2005
•RS 250 R 1990-1997
•TSR 250 1999-NOW
•RVF400 1994-1996
•CBR400R NC23 1986-1987
•CBR400RR NC23 1988-1989
•CBR 400RR NC29 1990-1994
•VFR 400 R (NC30) 1989-1992
•CB 400N 1982-1988

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Just to stop any confusion about the Varadero discs, they will not fit the VTR.

The bikes that use Varadero fitting are-

•Thickness: 5mm
•Outer: 29.6cm (11.6")
•Inner: 6.2cm(2.4")

Compatible for Honda:
•CBR 600 F4 99-00
•VFR 800 VTEC INERCEPTOR 1998-2009
•CBR 900 RR 92-93
•XL1000V Varadero 1999-2007

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old post but fantastic info, thanks.
just looking today to find a second hand pair of front brake rotors as mine are warped.
so hopefully rotor discs from any of the bikes in the first list should fit my vtr1000f..
i will be sure to double check anyhow..
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Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs

Post by KermitLeFrog » Wed May 17, 2017 10:29 am

Are you sure they are warped? Sometimes it's just the bobbins that are stuck. They can be loosened up easily.
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Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs

Post by fatfreddy000 » Wed May 17, 2017 5:20 pm

KermitLeFrog wrote:Are you sure they are warped? Sometimes it's just the bobbins that are stuck. They can be loosened up easily.
I've checked them since posting that and the thickness is still good (around 4.15mm).
the bobbins have no movement at all.
im not used to bike with 'floating' discs so am unsure how much movement there should be?
that would be the best way of trying to free them?
thanks..
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Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs

Post by Wicky » Wed May 17, 2017 6:11 pm

fatfreddy000 wrote:
KermitLeFrog wrote:Are you sure they are warped? Sometimes it's just the bobbins that are stuck. They can be loosened up easily.
I've checked them since posting that and the thickness is still good (around 4.15mm).
the bobbins have no movement at all.
im not used to bike with 'floating' discs so am unsure how much movement there should be?
that would be the best way of trying to free them?
thanks..
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Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs

Post by tony.mon » Wed May 17, 2017 6:13 pm

Put a bolt through each bobbin, tighten a nut on the other side then rotate while spraying with brake cleaner.
It's not falling off, it's an upgrade opportunity.

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Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs

Post by KermitLeFrog » Wed May 17, 2017 6:22 pm

tony.mon wrote:Put a bolt through each bobbin, tighten a nut on the other side then rotate while spraying with brake cleaner.
Wot he said. There is a spring washing incorporated so even when they are free they don't spin freely. You should notice a big difference though.
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Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs

Post by fatfreddy000 » Wed May 17, 2017 8:33 pm

KermitLeFrog wrote:
tony.mon wrote:Put a bolt through each bobbin, tighten a nut on the other side then rotate while spraying with brake cleaner.
Wot he said. There is a spring washing incorporated so even when they are free they don't spin freely. You should notice a big difference though.
thanks for tip, and to Tony.
ill give that ago tomorrow along with setting the TPS and a dozen other small jobs..
out of interest how would a seized bobbin result in a 'untrue' disc?
are they designed to allow a small amount of play at right angles to the wheel?
sorry for my naivety , as i say I'm used to old stuff with solid discs..
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Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs

Post by KermitLeFrog » Wed May 17, 2017 9:03 pm

I'm not an expert but my analysis would be that they have two main functions.

1. As the disk changes temperature it's not constrained laterally and can expand and contract radially without being stressed laterally by the mount.

2. It's allowed to move laterally by a small amount and thus self-centre itself as it runs through the pads.

Very happy to be corrected on this.
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Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs

Post by fatfreddy000 » Sat May 20, 2017 12:13 pm

KermitLeFrog wrote:
tony.mon wrote:Put a bolt through each bobbin, tighten a nut on the other side then rotate while spraying with brake cleaner.
Wot he said. There is a spring washing incorporated so even when they are free they don't spin freely. You should notice a big difference though.

Had a play with the bobbins yesterday along with loads of other little jobs.
They were really stiff and most made a cracking noise when they freed up.
Gave them all a good spin in both directions and sprayed a load of cleaner on them but they are still pretty tight- some more than others. I cannot turn them with my fingers.
I'm wondering why they are so tight, I though the would loosen with age, maybe there's just still a lot of 'dirt' in there that needs to come out.
any ideas?.
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Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs

Post by alanfjones1411 » Sat May 20, 2017 1:17 pm

Use an electric drill rather than a spanner
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Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs

Post by fatfreddy000 » Sat May 20, 2017 5:07 pm

alanfjones1411 wrote:Use an electric drill rather than a spanner
Great idea, I have a cordless and socket adaptor. Is the the best thing to help flush it out break cleaner?
Thanks.
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Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs

Post by alanfjones1411 » Sat May 20, 2017 5:21 pm

fatfreddy000 wrote:
alanfjones1411 wrote:Use an electric drill rather than a spanner
Great idea, I have a cordless and socket adaptor. Is the the best thing to help flush it out break cleaner?
Thanks.
Yes brake cleaner. Don't use anything oil based
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Re: Six spokes and 3 spokes that fit 17 +front brake discs

Post by ThePiston70 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:38 am

The CBR1100 Blackbird wheel is the same but only the pre injection model that's up to 1998. The hub dimensions changed after this (don't know why) but the width of the hub is differ ant as is the Somerset of the disc centre holes.....

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