know your filters

[seb421]

oil filters what to look for

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[VTRDark]

That is very interesting. An in depth view on filters and filtration. Nice one Seb

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[seb421]

That is very interesting. An in depth view on filters and filtration. Nice one Seb

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my thoughts too, much better than the random hillbilly self review videos youtube is full of, now i know what to look for and what it all means

[VTRDark]

The only problem is when choosing is deciphering all the manufactures marketing crap and working out what's what. Ideally what would be nice is rather than call it a high flow filter, give us a full tech spec. But yeh a very well presented and informative video. I wont look at oil filters the same way now when I'm purchasing. It's taught me something I knew little about.

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[tony.mon]

Ok, next time you buy one please post up the info for that model.
Let's compile a database or spreadsheet of particle size, and percentage of particles that size that get through.

[StormingHonda]

Ok, next time you buy one please post up the info for that model.
Let's compile a database or spreadsheet of particle size, and percentage of particles that size that get through.

I was thinking the same tony, we could dedicate our lives and this site to the scientific facts and fiquires of oil filters, it would make our lives so much more interestingly boring.

I was studying the the the groves of a OEM air filter once and measuring distances and abnormalities of distances, I nearly slipped into a coma.

[darkember]

Good video, being from the water industry he is completly correct. However, all the filters I use in the water industry have all that spcification plastered all over the packaging & it is easy to compare one to another. I have yet to see any spec data on any oil filter that I have bought thus far. The only data they have on them are the OEM numbers and sometimes the various bikes that it will fit to.

As the video states over filtering is possibly worse than fitting a lower spec filter. In the water industry all that happens is the flow will stop, on ones bike this could lead to oil starvation or no filtration at all when the by-pass valve opens.

[seb421]

Ok, next time you buy one please post up the info for that model.
Let's compile a database or spreadsheet of particle size, and percentage of particles that size that get through.

I was thinking the same tony, we could dedicate our lives and this site to the scientific facts and fiquires of oil filters, it would make our lives so much more interestingly boring.

I was studying the the the groves of a OEM air filter once and measuring distances and abnormalities of distances, I nearly slipped into a coma.

Strange that as I struggled so hard to find logic with your post I too nearly slipped into a coma, final conclusion poor attempt at humour.

Sent from the Bat Cave via Cup and String

[Kev L]

Now, now chasps, behave or Uncle Kev will visit with the gimp suit again!!!!
There was a really interesting post on the Superhawk forum a while back where a member did an in depth evaluation of a variety of oil filters, cutting them and testing the filtration properties. If I remember right Fram didn't come out of it too well with Honda doing a good job.
I have looked for the post but can't find it at present. If anyone, more familiar with the SH site can find it, it might be a useful addition on here.

[MacV2]

Some people swear by these...



I myself prefer a bit of rolled up thin card, old habits die hard...

[Wicky]

Motorcycle oil filters exposed!

Note: all he does it cut them open and does't test the filtration media, and rates them on appearance.

Method: Method? We don't need no steenkin' method! Just a bench vise (or balcony railing at the Skyline), a hacksaw and some beer. Then, just like all good things exposed, post the pics to the 'net!

http://www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/index.shtml

Here's a link with a bit more testing on oil filters, however most of them are makes available in the US

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Filters.html

http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/FilterXRef.html > VTR1000F [5]

These Oil Filters
have 20 x 1.5mm threads,
14 psi by-pass valve,
anti-drain back valve,
2.3" O.D. gasket
2.5" to 3.5" long.

If you have the room, I recommend the longer filters.
Motorcycle Filters.

None are recommended.

AC Delco PF2135
AMSOil SMF103
Carquest 85358
AC Delco PF2135
FRAM PH6017A
Honda 15410-MCJ-000
K&N KN-204, about $13. Metric nut on end for easy removal.
NAPA Gold 1358
Purolator ML16817. Imported, not made by Purolator.
STP SMO 17
WIX 51358

Recommended filters.

All have superior filtering.

About 2.5 inches long.
Purolator Pure One PL14612, about $6.
Mobil M1-108, about $12. (Made by Champion.)
Bosch 3300, about $6. (Made by Champion.)
Wal-Mart SuperTech ST6607 (Made by Champion.)

About 3.25 inches long.
Purolator Pure One PL14610, about $6.
Mobil 1 M1-110, about $10. (Made by Champion.)
Bosch 3323, about $6. (Made By Champion.)
WalMart SuperTech ST7317, about $2. (Made by Champion.)

N.B. Most of the recommended filters are Automobile Filters

http://www.vfrworld.com/tex_vfr/tech/oilfilter.htm

Automobile filters could be a different matter. However, in conversations with filter manufacturers, it appears that filter media and bypass pressures are similar, often times the same, and certainly overlap. So, while using an automobile filter could represent some additional degree of risk, if you either like to avoid all risk, or your motorcycle is still within its warranty period, you may prefer to stick with a motorcycle filter.

Now, now chasps, behave or Uncle Kev will visit with the gimp suit again!!!!
There was a really interesting post on the Superhawk forum a while back where a member did an in depth evaluation of a variety of oil filters, cutting them and testing the filtration properties. If I remember right Fram didn't come out of it too well with Honda doing a good job.
I have looked for the post but can't find it at present. If anyone, more familiar with the SH site can find it, it might be a useful addition on here.

[seb421]

For what its worth here is the Data sheet for the cheap F302 Champ Filter i got from Halfords

http://www.ferodoracing.com/catalogue/d ... ode=COF102

http://www.ferodoracing.com/it/motorcycle/filters.htm

Looks as if it should meet or exceed the OEM Honda item's

[seb421]

Motorcycle oil filters exposed!

Note: all he does it cut them open and does't test the filtration media, and rates them on appearance.

Method: Method? We don't need no steenkin' method! Just a bench vise (or balcony railing at the Skyline), a hacksaw and some beer. Then, just like all good things exposed, post the pics to the 'net!

http://www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/index.shtml

This was / is the type of thing i was refering to with regards to hillbilly type reviews, people just cutting sh1t up and looking at with without actually bench testing in a controlled environment

[VTRDark]

You calling all the yanks hillbillies "Yee Ha Horsie Chicken sh1t George Said Kiss My Ass"

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[seb421]

You calling all the yanks hillbillies "Yee Ha Horsie Chicken sh1t George Said Kiss My Ass"

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lol not all of them just those who prefer a hacksaw and beer over a controlled method test