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Tested Compression

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Tested today after cleaning it ready to tackle what i hoped was the stem seals... looks to be rings

TEST Engine not up to running temp but not cold either

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Front

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I then later did the engine oil down the head method, i used a tablespoon not a tea spoon as i miss read type :problem:

engine was cold for this one so would be a higher reading if warm, popkat suggested adding 5%

http://www.vtr1000.org/phpBB3/viewtopic ... 34#p248254


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Front

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Just trying to find the book value for compression now and see how bad this reading is....
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1 had 150 back and front on a cold engine. i think the book is 164 psi hot
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bsabloke wrote:any good to you?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-VTR1000 ... 43b9ad75e5
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thanks for the link mate, engine that in is a replacement engine don't know what state internally this one is going to be in either

plus is a 7+ hour round trip to pick the engine up :problem: that's gona cost some fuel ontop of the engine
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AMCQ46 wrote:1 had 150 back and front on a cold engine. i think the book is 164 psi hot
are you saying you had that mate?

the 150 readings on mine are with oil run into the heads

to see if the seals or rings was worn
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seb421 wrote:
AMCQ46 wrote:1 had 150 back and front on a cold engine. i think the book is 164 psi hot
are you saying you had that mate?

the 150 readings on mine are with oil run into the heads

to see if the seals or rings was worn
Yes, 150psi, no oil and cold engine... It was my 30,000 mile replacement
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seb421 wrote:
bsabloke wrote:any good to you?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-VTR1000 ... 43b9ad75e5
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thanks for the link mate, engine that in is a replacement engine don't know what state internally this one is going to be in either

plus is a 7+ hour round trip to pick the engine up :problem: that's gona cost some fuel ontop of the engine
If I'd had a van or even an estate I'd have picked it up for you as i'm working in that area and travelling up to Scotland on bank holiday weekend :(
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If you did want the engine, always a possibility to get it by courior. Seen others advertied with a courior for £60. Maybe worth looking into.
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bsabloke wrote:If you did want the engine, always a possibility to get it by courior. Seen others advertied with a courior for £60. Maybe worth looking into.
Rich
Thanks mate its just taking another gamble on another replacement engine.
I might get lucky like Al and get a minter or get stung with a bike that's been abused....

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Yes always a bit of a gamble. It is a gamble i took, which worked out ok.
If this is the route you take you will still have the current engine to rebuild, with no time pressure (as your bike is running)
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I made sure I got the engine of someone on here who had used it in his bike and knew it was strong, and he knew the owner from the bike before it was writen off...by being revered over when it was parked!

So it was a low risk
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how much power would you expect to loose using my engine?

lets say 130 psi front if hot

and 140 psi rear

book value says 164

how much life would you expect the engine to have left in it? its on 42k now
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You won't lose much on outright top end horsepower, because ring/bore wear has less effect at higher revs.
If you consider that there's only a fraction of a second for compressed and burning gas to leak down past three ring sets, (all with end gaps 120 degrees apart if it's been built right) you're not going to lose much compression at all.
But at lower revs you lose proportionally more.
I actually manage to start and ride home (5 miles or so) a Honda single that had a 5mm hole in the piston crown, which admittedly wouldn't run at less than 6,000 but ran, nonetheless.
Now that WAS a bit down on power.....
Point is, the engine will still develop most of its power, you'll notice torque dropping off, but incrementally and gradually, so it's not really noticeable as a day-to-day change.
It's only when you put in a rebuilt or nearly new engine that you can feel the difference- it's certainly noticeable then.

Lastly, it's rare that you actually use full power on the road, maybe 1% of the time? So if it's only noticeable at full revs, and it's rarely used at those revs, most of the time it's fine.
I think on balance if it's not using too much oil I'd put up with it, and refurb another engine ready to go in as time and funds allow. As ever, the cost of refurbishing an engine is out of proportion to the value of the bike, so you might be better off financially picking up another bike, swapping your good bits over, and either selling the clunker on to Marty as yet another for his collection or breaking it.
It's not falling off, it's an upgrade opportunity.
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tony.mon wrote:
selling the clunker on to Marty as yet another for his collection or breaking it.
:lol: :lol:

Interesting stuff Tony :thumbup:
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