blue smoke from both the mufflers

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blue smoke from both the mufflers

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Hi guys,
I think I'm in trouble, my storm has start to smoke blue from both the mufflers at high rpm during acceleration (6000+) 8O 8O 8O
For the skilled people on the forum is the firestorm more prone to wear the piston rings or the valve stem seals? the bike as 80000 km but still run like a train, I don't want to dismiss it
thanks a lot
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Re: blue smoke from both the mufflers

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Rings&bores , do a compression test .
Oh and keep an eye on the oil level (worth carrying 500mls under the seat (in a bottle) :-))
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thank u lloydie for your realism
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at 80k shes getting on so a we refresh will help..
the older i get,the faster i was :lol:
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Re: blue smoke from both the mufflers

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how is possible to have both cyl rings and bores worn? the bike run well
In my opinion I have got more likely a valve problem, the smoke appear for a while on acc and then disappear
now the problem is which head need to be serviced... :?:
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as loydie said do a compression test and see which pot is low, could well be both pots are the same and they both need a refresh.
the older i get,the faster i was :lol:
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Re: blue smoke from both the mufflers

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tastethefloor wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:08 am how is possible to have both cyl rings and bores worn? the bike run well
In my opinion I have got more likely a valve problem, the smoke appear for a while on acc and then disappear
now the problem is which head need to be serviced... :?:
easy fix check the spark plugs....
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fulviogsx wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:41 am
tastethefloor wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:08 am how is possible to have both cyl rings and bores worn? the bike run well
In my opinion I have got more likely a valve problem, the smoke appear for a while on acc and then disappear
now the problem is which head need to be serviced... :?:
easy fix check the spark plugs....
if I found oil on them ?
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Re: blue smoke from both the mufflers

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tastethefloor wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:40 am
fulviogsx wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:41 am
tastethefloor wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:08 am how is possible to have both cyl rings and bores worn? the bike run well
In my opinion I have got more likely a valve problem, the smoke appear for a while on acc and then disappear
now the problem is which head need to be serviced... :?:
easy fix check the spark plugs....
if I found oil on them ?
Your question was about which head need to be serviced.if you found oil on both,both heads need to be serviced
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fulviogsx wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:35 am
tastethefloor wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:40 am
fulviogsx wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:41 am
easy fix check the spark plugs....
if I found oil on them ?
Your question was about which head need to be serviced.if you found oil on both,both heads need to be serviced
yes sorry
I just found the front cylinder plug a little wet, the rear is perfect
hope is a valve seal or guide...if not I'm wombles
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do a compression check on the front, then pour some oil into the cylinder and if your figures go up id be thinking its rings.
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fabiostar wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:49 pm do a compression check on the front, then pour some oil into the cylinder and if your figures go up id be thinking its rings.
..mm..
i'm little more oriented to the heads zone ( valve seals). it 's quite difficult to find different level of wear between two cylinders...
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is the front head removable with the engine on the frame?
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tastethefloor wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:48 pm is the front head removable with the engine on the frame?
Yes - IIRC you'll first need to move some gubbins out of the way to wield your way in and out...
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Indeed.
Seat, tank, airbox, carbs, undertray, exhaust system, drain coolant, rads off, unbolt oil cooler fixing and lay it down out of the way. You don't need to disconnect the coolers lower connections or drain the oil.
Then you can set the engine to tdc compression on the front, remove cct and cams and unbolt the head.
It's not falling off, it's an upgrade opportunity.
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