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New chain time

Post by jchesshyre » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:11 am

My chain's started to feel a bit rough and some links are starting to bind. Usual story (hmmm, sodium chloride anyone?).

By my calculations I fitted it (D.I.D. X-ring) 18,000 miles ago. Not bad going for a torquey twin like this! Would like to pass the 20,000 mark but I don't have a chain oiler fitted and I ride all through winter. I do apply gear oil frequently however.

Anyway, I see that the OEM fitment was a D.I.D. Super Heavy Duty (aka ZVM). But these are much more expensive than the non-Super Heavy Duty ones (as I fitted last time). Am I likely to see appreciably more mileage out of a super-heavy duty one? Any of you high mileage folks drawn any conclusions about this before?

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Re: New chain time

Post by popkat » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:34 am

The original type chain has been well superseded now days (it was an O ring) Buy the best X ring you can afford, the more you pay generally the better and longer lasting you get.. Any chain will not last long if not looked after, but for you to get 18000 out of your last chain you must be looking after it.. The DID ZVM is their top chain and it will cost a bit more. Be careful on ebay as sellers sometimes offer the chain you want nice and cheap but you get a lower quality chain, check small print. Best to buy from a very reputable dealer.


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Re: New chain time

Post by fabiostar » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:07 am

buy the best you can when it comes to chains.. some cheap crap for sale that just wont stick the pace on a big lump like a vtr.
the older i get,the faster i was :lol:

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Re: New chain time

Post by jchesshyre » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:37 am

Oh god yeah, absolutely. My question was just regarding D.I.D. VX (heavy duty) vs their ZVMX (super heavy duty).

Anyway I've gone with the ZVMX :thumbup:

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Re: New chain time

Post by AMCQ46 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:30 pm

have a look at loobman chain oiler. it is a great way to keep your chain oiled and a simple design [as long as you remember to press the button every ride] which gets oil onto O-rings each side of the chain.
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Re: New chain time

Post by jchesshyre » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:06 pm

Actually...I have one of these but (I'm embarrassed to say) I've never got round to fitting it. I really should...

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Re: New chain time

Post by sirch345 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:34 pm

jchesshyre wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:37 am
Oh god yeah, absolutely. My question was just regarding D.I.D. VX (heavy duty) vs their ZVMX (super heavy duty).

Anyway I've gone with the ZVMX :thumbup:
If you don't mind me asking who are you purchasing yours from :?:

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Re: New chain time

Post by jchesshyre » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:43 pm

Demon Tweeks. They're actually just down the road from me, in Wrexham.

Paid £122.66 all-in for a D.I.D. ZVM-X chain and sprocket kit!

https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorcyc ... heavy-duty

Not bad considering the RRP of the chain alone is around £150.

I went for the super heavy duty in the end because (a) it's the OEM chain (although as mentioned above that would have been with plain O-rings not X-rings) and (b) because I was won over by what's written here http://www.didchain.com/streetChains.html.

Now I need to find a good chain tool. Last one I used (I think I've posted about this before) was a Sealey one which despite being rated for 530 chains stripped its threads (quite spectacularly in fact) whilst I was mushrooming the rivets. I took it back to Demon Tweeks and Sealey gave me a full refund. They do a heavy duty one (http://www.sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.a ... results=16) but it's rather bloody pricey...

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Re: New chain time

Post by sirch345 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:23 pm

jchesshyre wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:43 pm
Demon Tweeks. They're actually just down the road from me, in Wrexham.

Paid £122.66 all-in for a D.I.D. ZVM-X chain and sprocket kit!

https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorcyc ... heavy-duty

Not bad considering the RRP of the chain alone is around £150.

I went for the super heavy duty in the end because (a) it's the OEM chain (although as mentioned above that would have been with plain O-rings not X-rings) and (b) because I was won over by what's written here http://www.didchain.com/streetChains.html.

Now I need to find a good chain tool. Last one I used (I think I've posted about this before) was a Sealey one which despite being rated for 530 chains stripped its threads (quite spectacularly in fact) whilst I was mushrooming the rivets. I took it back to Demon Tweeks and Sealey gave me a full refund. They do a heavy duty one (http://www.sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.a ... results=16) but it's rather bloody pricey...
Many thanks for that information, very helpful :thumbup:

It sounds like you had a good deal at that price. Did you get JT or PowerRite sprockets :?:

Rather than purchasing a good quality chain riveting tool, I'm considering getting a local motorcycle shop to rivet mine. The good thing about the Firestorm is you can fit the chain fairly easy after it's been riveted together, unlike many bikes you don't have to take the swingarm out,

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Re: New chain time

Post by tony.mon » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:20 am

On the other hand, taking the swingarm out would prompt you to check and regrease the shock linkage and sa bearings, and apart from having to suspend the bike it's not a big job....but often "put off" or overlooked.
It's not falling off, it's an upgrade opportunity.

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Re: New chain time

Post by sirch345 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:16 pm

tony.mon wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:20 am
On the other hand, taking the swingarm out would prompt you to check and regrease the shock linkage and sa bearings, and apart from having to suspend the bike it's not a big job....but often "put off" or overlooked.
Good point Tony :thumbup:

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Re: New chain time

Post by jchesshyre » Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:15 am

sirch345 wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:23 pm
It sounds like you had a good deal at that price. Did you get JT or PowerRite sprockets :?:
The kit arrived today. The sprockets are neither JT nor PowerRite but 'AFAM' - never heard of them - hope they're not sh*t. It's a D.I.D.-made kit so hopefully they're not.

The chain looks HENCH: Image

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Re: New chain time

Post by 8541Hawk » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:53 pm

AFAM sprockets are very good. We have them here and I have use both the std and Al sprocket and have had good results with both.
In fact their Al sprockets are the only ones that last for any time on a VTR :thumbup:
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Re: New chain time

Post by tony.mon » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:52 pm

Agreed, afam are nice enough.
I use afam front sprockets but supersprox rears.
I've never found a deal with a good quality chain and a supersprox rear sprocket so end up buying a set and selling the rear steel one off.
It's not falling off, it's an upgrade opportunity.

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Re: New chain time

Post by TaxiDriver » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:23 pm

Afam make a nifty looking riveter too,also available @ demon around £16

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