front caliper upgrades

Collywog19 · Post by **Collywog19** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:51 pm

Just wondering whats out there to upgrade to as direct fit?

Cheers

Zer0Zer0 · Post by **Zer0Zer0** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 7:34 am

Gixxer 750 K1-K3 4 pot tokikos. i had them on my storm partnered to an sp1 master cylinder. a cracking set of stoppers, bolt straight on....

Kitch · Post by **Kitch** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 6:22 pm

Also GSXR 1000 6 pot Tockicos from K1 & K2 fit straight on.

I have these on mine mated to an SP1 19mm master cylinder and with fresh pads in its like one finger stoppies.

Vastly improved, though the original Storm brakes are pretty decent (but not in R1, Fireblade, GSXR, ZX10 league)

Jonesey · Post by **Jonesey** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:47 am

PM sent.

gilson · Post by **gilson** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:20 am

I was going down this route for my VTR track bike. I got a SP1 MC, which made the lever feel wooden, with little movement. Brakes were better though... now I've matched the MC to the SP1 calipers - I think it's important to match the ratios beween the MC and calipers. I've recently got some new pads (Brembo race pads) and new performance spec fluid.

I got my calipers from Jonesy, a very nice guy.

Before I got lucky and spoke to Jonesy, I did some research on the Tockios. The K1/K2 GSXR originally had 6 pots and when reviewed the brakes they were highlighted as poor. Suzuki then changed to 4pots (for the K31000 (and the 750)) as the heat build up in the 6 pots were too great and poor performance the result. If you go to a GSXR forum they are changing the 6 pots to the 4pots as per the newer 7501000 (after a single posting, I was offered two 6 pots fronts for sale!). Mind you, there is also a lot of banter about how much better the nissan on the Honda's are.

I'm sure Jonesy will sort you out some crackers, he'll even modify the SP1s to fit too... IMHO, this is the way to go.. (plus some proper pads). Good luck.

Post by **sirch345** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:02 pm

gilson wrote:I was going down this route for my VTR track bike. I got a SP1 MC, which made the lever feel wooden, with little movement. Brakes were better though... now I've matched the MC to the SP1 calipers - I think it's important to match the ratios beween the MC and calipers. I've recently got some new pads (Brembo race pads) and new performance spec fluid.

I got my calipers from Jonesy, a very nice guy.

Before I got lucky and spoke to Jonesy, I did some research on the Tockios. The K1/K2 GSXR originally had 6 pots and when reviewed the brakes they were highlighted as poor. Suzuki then changed to 4pots (for the K31000 (and the 750)) as the heat build up in the 6 pots were too great and poor performance the result. If you go to a GSXR forum they are changing the 6 pots to the 4pots as per the newer 7501000 (after a single posting, I was offered two 6 pots fronts for sale!). Mind you, there is also a lot of banter about how much better the nissan on the Honda's are.

I'm sure Jonesy will sort you out some crackers, he'll even modify the SP1s to fit too... IMHO, this is the way to go.. (plus some proper pads). Good luck.

I appreciate you posting that Gilson

Very helpful

Cheers,

Chris.

Jonesey · Post by **Jonesey** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:22 pm

The only thing i would add regarding the 6 pots is that with those there is so much braking power, that unless you've had your forks modified to suit them, your front suspension could become overwhelmed under harder braking.
Don't know if this helps at all?
Chris.

Jonesey · Post by **Jonesey** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:24 pm

As Gilson very kindly said, i have a whole load of these calipers, and braided lines and also 2x19mm master cylinders if anyone is interested.
we're not talking silly money here.
Chris.

stormdude · Post by **stormdude** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:48 pm

gxxer 750 k3 4 pots here too...rolling stoppies easy now

Pete.L · Post by **Pete.L** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:53 am

Jonesey wrote:The only thing i would add regarding the 6 pots is that with those there is so much braking power, that unless you've had your beer belly modified to suit them, your front suspension could become overwhelmed under harder braking.
Don't know if this helps at all?
Chris.

Jonesey · Post by **Jonesey** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:21 am

Haha pete!!! that's a good'un, very sharp.
Chris.

gilson · Post by **gilson** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:00 pm

sirch345 wrote: I appreciate you posting that Gilson Very helpful

Cheers,

Chris.

Not sure I understand the above? Am I getting a telling off from the admin?

I'm not trying to be controversial or even slagging off the 6 pots.
And I'm give credit to Jonesy, not because he has a Welsh name (are you Welsh Chris?) and now lives in Essex (no jokes about Gavin and Stacey, although if they are funny bring them on), simply because he's a gent and sorted me out with some super calipers and advice (I got them way cheaper from Jonesy than I could have on ebay).

I'm hoping to go to Brands on the 14th Feb so if I think the new brakes are better I'll post. I bet you won't sleep until that day, eh?

Jonesey · Post by **Jonesey** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:43 pm

1/2 welsh 1/2 irish, and i've also got ginger hair, you know what they say about gingers don't you?

Jonesey · Post by **Jonesey** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:46 pm

No gilson, i don't think it's a telling off, cos it's a concise explanetory post about brakes, which everyone can appreciate.
Good one bud.
Chris.

gilson · Post by **gilson** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:03 pm

Jonesey wrote:1/2 welsh 1/2 irish, and i've also got ginger hair, you know what they say about gingers don't you?

O! Proper Celtic!

Glad I'm not being told off:-) I like this place...