Starting Problems

robvtr · Post by **robvtr** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:02 pm

Hi all,

long time no post

I'm having problems starting my firestorm

Basically it is turning over but wont kick off, battery is fine.

Last time I went out was xmas eve and prior to that it had been a bit difficult to start but would eventually get going, I'm thinking it may be fuel related but thought I'd ask what may be the first things to check

Cheers

Rob

stormingjoe · Post by **stormingjoe** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:18 pm

check your choke operation

fishface · Post by **fishface** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:43 pm

to start mine id
twist throttle a couple of times
press starter let it try a couple of times
then
half pull out choke no throttle
press starter and bingo it would fire up

tony.mon · Post by **tony.mon** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:03 pm

Check the big starter cable running from the solenoid under the seat surround plastic to the starter motor.

Where it terminates in a washer-like connection which bolts on to the starter motor, the cable rots due to salt etc and can't carry the current.

It'll turn over, but slower than normal, and not quite enough to fire.

There's been some threads before on this- worth a search.

Stratman · Post by **Stratman** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:54 pm

Don't use any choke, turn her over a couple of times. Then turn her over whilst pulling out the choke bit by bit till she fires.

Otherwise quite easy to flood then its a real mare

robvtr · Post by **robvtr** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:11 am

Thanks fot the replies folks

It aint the battery as it's brand new, plus,
I put the battry off my r1 (that fires up ok) and it still would not go, nearly, but no

I shall have a look at all the suggestions made

Rob

gilson · Post by **gilson** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:36 am

It takes more amps to turn two pint sized cylinders rather than 4 little 'uns. but that seems not to be the issue.

I start mine full choke from the off, very little throttle, if any.

You haven't been doing any work on it? Tank off at all?

Good luck sir, let us know what you find out.

satanzhand · Post by **satanzhand** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:21 pm

Fuel, Air, Spark workout which one/s you don't have and go from there.

robvtr · Post by **robvtr** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:48 pm

Ok

Turns out that the new battery my mate got me twas a bit shagged and not putting out quite enough juice to turn the monster over

New battery (again) on couple of strokes and away she goes

Rob

fishface · Post by **fishface** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:50 pm

hook it up to an optimate money well spent

Post by **sirch345** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:17 pm

robvtr wrote:Ok

Turns out that the new battery my mate got me twas a bit shagged and not putting out quite enough juice to turn the monster over

New battery (again) on couple of strokes and away she goes

Rob

I've said it before and I'm going to say it again

IMHO your better off spending that bit extra and buying an OE (original equipment) battery a Yuasa

Cheaper batteries show up their true colours when the winter comes around, plus because a Yuasa lasts longer you actually save money in the long term

Chris.

gilson · Post by **gilson** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:15 pm

Good advice I think. A yuasa is about 45GBP. THere are those oddysey batteries which are 80-90GBP...

Are they worth the extra?

tony.mon · Post by **tony.mon** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:17 pm

Picked up a cheapie a year or so back, and it's fine.

No Optimate or similar, but I use it pretty much every day, so it never leaks the charge away.

IMO it's how long you leave batteries between cycles that kills them, sulpahting I think it's called.

satanzhand · Post by **satanzhand** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:17 pm

Yeah I have been told the same thing down in NZ as well... Basically I've been told if you don't ride your bike for about three days your battery is heading for the cemetery, unless you keep it charging all the time.

I admit our climate is very hard on batteries though.

Post by **sirch345** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:55 am

gilson wrote:Good advice I think. A yuasa is about 45GBP. THere are those oddysey batteries which are 80-90GBP...

Are they worth the extra?

Where did you see Yuasa batteries for around Â£45

as that is a very good price. Wemoto is the best price I've come across and that's at Â£57.50 + delivery.

I've heard about Odssey batteries before, but having a look for an exact price for the Firestorm, they don't seem to list them

They obviously are a better battery, but as you say cost a lot more too

Chris.

satanzhand wrote:Yeah I have been told the same thing down in NZ as well... Basically I've been told if you don't ride your bike for about three days your battery is heading for the cemetery, unless you keep it charging all the time.

I agree with that

The battery in my old Suzuki GSThou that was used everyday lasted for 8yrs

Chris.