CCT's done but the rattle is still there; Ideas please?

[JIMMYJAMES]

If you want to pop it round to mine to compare noises then send me a PM

Thanks bud, i'm hopeing i might have found the source of the problem now. Still up for a rideout sometime though when the weather is a bit better.

[JIMMYJAMES]

I think you may be on to something with the sub gear, if you mean the spring-loaded one which sits alongside the front primary drive gear.

It's a bit of a bugger to get together, as I recall, you need the clutch basket completely off to get it to sit right.

Then you load it so that it's tensioned one tooth round and it sort of "grips" the teeth on the clutch basket gear. Haynes has a section on it which is easy to follow.

If it's in any way loose it'll rattle for sure, as the crank speeds up and slows down each revolution.

But to get the clutch centre off you need to be able to lock the primary drive gears, and it's pretty tight. A big bit of scaffold pipe comes in handy, over a good 1/2 drive socket. And in gear, with someone standing on the back brake.

However, be aware that the clutch centre nut is staked against the shaft, and you'll probably need a new one. So order one in b4 u start.

But could you ride it as is?
Probably, it'll take a bloody long time for the primary drive gears to rattle together enough to produce any wear, IMO.

But would I put up with it?
No, I'd just strip and repair- if you have (or can make) a clutch centre tool [some old clutch plates bolted together works ok] then it's not too long a job.
Longest bit is taking off the fairing, draining coolant and getting clutch cover off. Oh, and you might want to order in a new clutch cover gasket, too, as they often break when removing them.


Good luck!

Thats the one Tony, i stumbled upon it in the Honda service book and thought it didn't look quite right as the springs dont do anything one visually is not seated well at all. I would have thought from looking at it that i could just remove and refit the damper rather than strip it all out. Its easy enough to get to and its only one bolt holding it in place. I will have a word with my local Honda tech tomorrow and se what he recommends as the best course of action. Thanks for the help and i will keep you updated!

P.S. Would this cause my ignition to be retarded also? I hope so as its never really performed like i expected the big twin to perform.

[tony.mon]

Ah, just spotted your new thread, sadly after I'd typed up a long answer!
Hopefully you've sorted it.
Tony

[sirch345]

For future reference, anyone wondering what the out come was follow this link:-
http://www.vtr1000.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=15267

Chris.