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Post by bluesman »

Hello old and new colleagues-twiners.

Since I was absent on forum for almost 2 years perhaps even more wisdom accumulated on forum so - here goes :)

Question and advice sought - any input appreciated.

I am looking for ways to protect my Fstorm from minor accidents, e.g. slow low sides etc.
Last time I crashed 1500 km from home (did not spor hole in asphalt prepared to be patched over by bunch of roadworkers who decided to have lunch in middle of work) I had really slow speed lowside which unfortunately cracked right engine cover and broke right rider footpeg off. I had good crash pads but road still touched lower part of bike because on impact 10 mm alloy plate pads were installed on bent. And it's good or it would've cracked frame. Problem was all down to 2-point fixation while crashbars have 3-4 each side and distribute force better.
I was looking for some solution and came across Racing905 crash bars but don't like them + shipping from US just crazily expensive. Here is some photos in thread.
http://www.superhawkforum.com/forums/sh ... hp?t=19054

I also saw those bars from Japan and find them a bit too much far from perfect on shape, location etc.
http://www.ablett.jp/bikes/vtr/case_guards.htm

Also one of my friends stunt-ed Fstorm have custom made bars, but they require no fairing and get in the way when leaning bike in corners hard.

I am totally DYI man and can and do work with metals and machinery, but have no pipe bender and no way to access one.
Hence the question - who can share experience based on real falls with particular type of protection and if anyone have any info on crashbars for Fstorm I would be grateful. Anything will do. Any combo of crashpads/casing guards etc. - please share. Thank you.
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Haven't got any solutions, but had a similar experience with DHM mushrooms, steel bracket's bent twice now, allowing the sticky-out winglet on the lower fairing to touch down, and last time, the seat surround as well.

But at least you can hammer the bracket back into shape and buy a new mushroom.

Those brackets on the Superhawk forum look a wee bit too much like footboard mounts to me, I know cruisers and vee-twins go hand-in hand, but it's a step too far for me.

But each to their own opinion, personal choice and all.....

Just bought paddock stand bobbins in plastic for the swing-arm and front wheel spindle, partly in an attempt to minimise crash damage.
I'll post pics after they've been fitted- too bloody cold to play outside at the mo.
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Thank you. Yep, those Racing905 thingies look kinda bit wrong. Plust they use huge 1.5" pipe which make no sense to me in this variant of armor as mount points not that strong. But that's because full-scale Racing905 cage also have crossmember bolted to those side bars down-across front of engine, which again no good to me because stunt armor variant touches asphalt in big leaning angles, that's actually why racing905 themselves separate "racing armor" from "stunt armor"
Did you break footpeg mount and engine side cover (if it was right side) too?
Did you use any engine casing armor, like those kevlar/carbon covers that glued on? And if so - did they save engine covers?
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Stratman wrote:Image

:D
ahahaha rofl :)
i need some of them :D
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Ah! I am off to garage to take those off my youngest son bike and put them on Storm :biggrin
Mmmm....not sure if they can take 245 kmph thou :biggrin
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You should've told me earlier :lol:

I still remember looks on faces of my riding buddies when I told them that we just passed speedcam at 245 kmph in Bretagne

And of course after looong pause I told them camera was facing forward :biggrin

Anyway, my Storm is in perfect order and I am not going to sell it, ever. So I am still looking for solution. So - anyone? :wink:
Problem is - I don't do local rides. I only do long distance rides and need something to protect functionality of bike. I don't give damn about looks in general, it must be just be fuinctional and not touching ground at pegs scrapping angles. And I can make almost everything myself, so if it's custom made I don't mind if you just have good photos...
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Post by gilson »

I recommend these:

GSG Moko.

Expensive, but I've tested them many times (track bike plus incompetance) and they do take a battering....

Maybe cheaper elsewhere? (I think I saw them on Webmoto too?)

http://www.mandp.co.uk/productinfo.aspx ... l=GSG-Moko
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bluesman wrote: Did you break footpeg mount and engine side cover (if it was right side) too?
Did you use any engine casing armor, like those kevlar/carbon covers that glued on? And if so - did they save engine covers?

Oh, yeah. And bent forks, too, as it bumped gently into the kerb. Right side, as you say.

So it wasn't just the diesel on a wet road, but standing in 4 litres of hot Mobil1 that made picking it up quite interesting :D

No Kevlar cases fitted, but now I've got the old scraped clutch cover on I'm considering one from the E-Bay German blokie

TBH, I dont think they'd have saved the cover, as the footrest punched a pretty good hole in it as soon as the bracket snapped.
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tony.mon wrote:
bluesman wrote:

No Kevlar cases fitted, but now I've got the old scraped clutch cover on I'm considering one from the E-Bay German blokie
They work too! :lol:
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You got a link for the German bloke?
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Here's his email: carbonadi1@yahoo.de
Adi is his name...
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cheers mate, any examples of his work anywhere online???
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Jazzscot wrote:cheers mate, any examples of his work anywhere online???
Take your pick :wink:
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/carbonadi/m.html ... m=&_ipg=25

Or Firestorm only:-
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/carbonadi/m.html ... &_osacat=0

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sirch345 wrote:
Jazzscot wrote:cheers mate, any examples of his work anywhere online???
Take your pick :wink:
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/carbonadi/m.html ... m=&_ipg=25

Or Firestorm only:-
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/carbonadi/m.html ... &_osacat=0

Chris.

Fack....his English is only marginally better than my German....

"With the protective lid of the fa CARBONADI it concerns protective lid especially for racing purposes were developed. They serve primarily the protection of engine parts.
Numerous lintels have unambiguously proved that our lids in the position are to be prevented a damage of the original lid and therefore the engine or to minimise substantially.

The extreme wear opposition is guaranteed by a special system. Thus the lids pass of 4 different fibrous materials and 2 different resinous systems specially for the fa CARBONADI are preset. The core of the protective lid forms extremely travel and wear-steady, pure Keflar fabric with which the fall place in the lid is equipped several times overlapping. The strength amounts to 3 mms to 5 mms according to execution. Lids are to be allowed on the edge basically thin as at the fall place around the assembly by perhaps disguising parts of the motorcycle easily.

Specially manufacture is possible to every time. Thus, e.g., titanium, steel or aluminium tins with can be trained to make the lids even more sure. Also in the surface colour we are variable. Thus you can choose the surface in COACH VOUCHER, HYBRID (coach voucher-Keflar, yellow-black, twill connection or canvas connection) or KEFLAR (yellow). Other colours on inquiry.

Lids are stuck on the original lid. Glue on silicone base to 250°C is not included in the scope of supply, however, on inquiry available."


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