SuperHawk, Firestorm & VTR 1000 ??

SuperWheelie996 · Post by **SuperWheelie996** » Sun Jun 13, 2004 11:36 am

I know the vtr 1000 is all three, but Ive always wondered why there was three different names for the same bike, and are there any differences between the three, in the contruction or specs ??

Fireman on a Storm · Post by **Fireman on a Storm** » Sun Jun 13, 2004 7:09 pm

I think the difference is all in the stickers

Sorry but you need someone like Del to answer this sort of question, he seems to know all the different specs for different counties.

The differences will be more for what market the bike was made for, rather than what markings or stickers the bike has

BP team · Post by **BP team** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:13 am

as for me the diffrent name are just to dapt name to the market. it seem that hawk sounds better in US than firestorm or VTR1000.
In french VTR 1000 souds good (quicker to say VTR mille ("VTR meal" it's said). In English, VTR thausand, i don't feel it very good (but i'm not english...)
So it's just for exemple, but it may be a marketing need.

For the diffrence, i think, in spite of light warns... the main difference is that in several land the standard front sprocket is 15 or 17. But in every countries i thing all VTR are 100CV.

BP team · Post by **BP team** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:14 am

sorry, when i write CV it means horses in english...

O-Ring · Post by **O-Ring** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:34 am

I know there are only two type of vtr.....VTR1000 Firestorm and VTR1000 Superhawk...think the same bike!

Hi guys

BP team · Post by **BP team** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:21 pm

I know there are only two type of vtr.....VTR1000 Firestorm and VTR1000 Superhawk...think the same bike!

you're are right too. but in france, the name of VTR is firestom too but we always call it VTR1000 seldom firestorm. But VTr sp1 are called SP1.

must be a culture question.

and as far as i'm concerning, i don't thinhk there are any motor differences bettween superkawks en firestorm
Oliv'

ex-viffer · Post by **ex-viffer** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 1:59 am

The VTR is called the "Superhawk" in the US because it follows the very successful Hawk (NT650, I think). In fact, the prototype VTR1000 was developed in the US, and looked quite a bit like the Hawk.
The only differences are mainly to stuff like emissions equipment, headlights, and whether the speedo is in km/h or mph.
The US also didn't get the 19litre tank of the newer model, and also had less choice in colours I think.

DD · Post by DD » Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:34 am

ex-viffer wrote:The US also didn't get the 19litre tank of the newer model, and also had less choice in colours I think.

Yeah, I did notice something like that there F3 (latest model) comes in gloss black only but with gold wheels which dont look too bad, and also there belly pan is still the old silver. By memory they still have all the old markings, wierd realy with the distance that thay could travel and still only a 16L tank.............. shezz yanks aye

thehazmatguy · Post by **thehazmatguy** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 3:01 am

DD wrote:
ex-viffer wrote:The US ... still only a 16L tank.............. shezz yanks aye

Yea.. I have to tell you that that little tank sucks here in the US. I have the Canadian Firestorm (same as UK spec I think) bodywork on my Superhawk. The bigger gas tank comes with a slight power loss, so I guess that is why the US model still has the old fuel tank. Honda shrank the airbox to enlarge the gas tank, at least that is what I read someplace. I think I would rather have the bigger fuel tank, the power loss was supposed to be super small.

Besides the gas tank size, the only thing that I know of that is different between the bikes is turn signals (US marker lights have to be labeled "DOT"), gauges, and markings.