Scottoiler. a very good item.

BP team · Post by **BP team** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:11 am

Hi,
Send this post to talk about scottoiler, an automatic chain oiler system i bought and fitted this week. I discovered it by a post on VTR mag (the VTR discution board in french). The guy who told about it is a reliable man (especially in technic). He give these exemples :
A friend of him, with a VFR conclued it :
First chain : 30000km
2nd chain : changed at 60000km (so 30000km life too)
3rd chain : changed and fitting of the scottoiler. Now he is at 121000km still with the same chain (61000km with this chain...)
Other exemple : a guy fitted it on his new 600 fazer, the chain is now up to 40000km, and it seems to be goodâ€¦
Scottoiler is an oiling system, connected in engine vaccuum (depression?). So oil is dropping on the chain only when engine is on.
On the VTR french discution board we organized a "common buy" to have a good price. 105â‚¬ delivered at home. (arround 72Â£). Thinking of chain price, it's very interesting when you now that chain will last up to 2X the standard km last. And furthemore, you can forget to oil you chain every 500km or when it's raining! And you 've got an adjustement of oil flow.
More informations on http://www.scottoiler.com
I uploaded piccies of my the fit on my bike.
http://www.abercon.co.uk/vtr1000/gallery/DSCF0007.JPG
http://www.abercon.co.uk/vtr1000/gallery/DSCF0003.JPG
http://www.abercon.co.uk/vtr1000/gallery/DSCF0002.JPG

Oliv'

Pipstorm · Post by **Pipstorm** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:37 am

Hi Oliv'

Be slightly aware of scotoilers, I too have one fitted, filled it up just before my trip to the Isle of Man this year. After a quick run round the circuit my mate noticed a mark on my back tire, when i stopped the scotoiler had turned itself up full and covered the left hand edge of my rear tyre in oil.

one more fast left hander and I'm sure I would have been off, I've spoken to a few people about this and other have heard about this happening, I know of one person whose scotoiler exploded and covered the rear in oil, he came off.

I've not used it since and I know the benefits of increasing chain life but good maintenance will do that as well, I think we are all just being lazy about chain maintenance.

Phil

BP team · Post by **BP team** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:59 am

if the scottoiler is right fitted, there are no reason for it to turn. in a first time i have had the same pb. i fitted it better and now it doesn'nt move anymore.

Your story of a scottoiler exploded, surprise me. it's a little bottle without presure, i don't anderstand how it could explode.

furthemore you've to follow instruction to adjust the flow, in order to not send to much oil and risking oiling your tyre.

i think it's alose to have a such system an not to use it.
As for me i'm carefully with the adjustement of flow end the tightening of the distribution vaccum. all have to be correctly adjusted.

Fester · Post by **Fester** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 7:47 pm

Me, I swear by em

Only problem I've ever encountered is sometimes air gets into the 'system' and stops the flow. Easily sorted though.

I do find that even with the flow turned right down (1 drip every 60-90 secs) I STILL get some 'fling' on the left edge of the tyre, which is annoying!

Brilliant device!

fester

orange_vtr · Post by **orange_vtr** » Sun Jul 04, 2004 10:16 am

I've got one as well and had no problems at all so far. Bike's done around 22000 miles now and still on the first chain with lots of adjustment left!

Also I don't get any fling on the rear tyre. Could be because the injector is fitted to the front sprocket!?

BP team · Post by **BP team** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 8:20 am

Front sprocket! i thought about it, but i thought that i have to oil the rear sprocket more than the front. hearing you, it makes no diferences.

I have just one question for you. did you fit the black end pipe in a way that it touch the sprocket or it touch the chain?

(PS : I don't like orange color but orange VTR looks great!

)

orange_vtr · Post by **orange_vtr** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:09 am

It's actually not touching anything. It's fitted just above the chain before it hits the front sprocket and seems to do a very good job at keeping everyting oiled.

BP team · Post by **BP team** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:37 am

FESTER said :

Only problem I've ever encountered is sometimes air gets into the 'system' and stops the flow. Easily sorted though

.

Fester, i have now a problem of flow. There is no drop when it's adjusted on the 7 first position. I think i've the same air problem than you.
Can you explain me where exactly the air get and how to fix this problem away please?

Oliv'

Fester · Post by **Fester** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:14 pm

Cool idea Orange

Hey Oliv'

If you get air into the delivery pipe, all you need to do is go through the instructions for 'priming' in your booklet. If you don't have one, I've extracted below:
1) set the adjuster knob to PRIME (fully clockwise)
2) disconnect the breather at the tapered joint on the filler plug (so take the breather pipe OFF, but leave the rubber bung attached to the unit)
3) connect the tube from the scottoil bottle (yes, your 500ml yellow bottle of oil) to the breather tube (connected to the unit) and then just squeeze the bottle until oil starts to drip again.
4) reconnect the breather assembly
5) adjust the flow as normal

Hope that helps

fester

BP team · Post by **BP team** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:01 am

Thank you very much!
that's what i did yesterday! But when there is a little air bubble in the distribution pipe have i to re prime all the flow in the distribution pipe?

I wonder if air don't get in when i do wheelies. so i wonder if i won't have to fit the "bottle" verticaly so that in wheelies, oil will stay down near the syphon.

Fester · Post by **Fester** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 4:50 pm

No, not every time! I often notice air in my pipe, but it still flows ok. You just need to PRIME it once the flow gets stopped.

Don't know about the wheelies! Ask Scottoiler perhaps?

fester

BP team · Post by **BP team** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:12 am

Thank you. I re primed all. fitted the bottle in an other way so that in wheelies the oil stand down near the syphon.
I looked at it yesterday and saw a little drop at the end of the distribution pipe. it seems to work. I will check it this week end perhaps.

I adjust it on 4th position, what is your adjustement? (depression is connected on carburator, and not under the tank)

Oliv'

Fester · Post by **Fester** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:22 pm

Can't really see what the number is Oliv', the reservoir is mounted under the seat and lies flat, so I can't see the number, but I'd guess it was between 2 and 4

fester

BP team · Post by **BP team** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 7:32 am

OK thanks!
I'll see this eek end if it works but it must!
Oliv'

cupasoop · Post by **cupasoop** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 3:14 pm

While we're on the subject of scottoilers, mine seems to have finally started working the way it should(i.e oil all over the back wheel and chain guard). The rollers in the chain seem nice and oily but the side plates have gone all rusty and brown! Is this normal?