Oil pickup position ??

[nat]

Hello all, new here so bare with me .
Right then, i'd like to know the pump pickup position in the sump i.e rear/centre o/s or n/s also, does it sit in a 'well' :-if so, how deep? I ask because it's going in a four wheeled vee-hickle. I know, i know- don't shoot me eh . The bike will be after this project . Obviously i don't want to hoon up the road and find my oil light on and a bearing or 2 screaming, literally, blue murder at me. I can then decide whether to keep it parallel to the ground or whether i can cant it over a bit. OH, it's gonna be tranverse aswell...... Any and all help most appreciated. Thankyou

[Pete.L]

That sounds well cool
I don't know how much angle you can safely put on the engine (15 degrees if I made a guess??) but why dont you just pop the sump off and have a look. I think it holds about 3 liters so there is quite a size to play with.

Pete.l

[Twinpotter]

Hi Nat

Had the strainer out yesterday and I can tell you that the oil pickup (a push-fit 'flat-golf club shaped' strainer) sits to the right rear of the sump well with the strainer hat positioned back inwards. I suspect this suggests keeping the engine flat. But since the oil fills above the sump seal, I'd suggest that if the engine corners flat, it would be a matter of knowing that the sump pickup is immersed at all times while it slushes about. I think it would be fine.

And as I understand it, the engine is transverse crankshaft mounted but if you mean you want to turn the engine 90° horizontally from how it is positioned on the bike, I guess (and I'm not sure, get other opinions please) that doing so clockwise 90° would place the strainer to the rear with the hat positioned back inwards. How that affects the oil level in the sump (factoring in all considerations), I couldn't really say but it's a fairly tight well so I would think it might be OK.

Hope it helps and let us see the finished thing on YT.

Good luck

[benny hedges]

engine works fine when it's leaning over 30 degrees in fast bends, also works ok at 60 degree wheelies so really can't see you have any problems

go on then,,, what you building

[AMCQ46]

difference with a bike cornering at 30deg is that the centrifugal forces will keep the oil flat with respect to the sump, so that is not the same as when a car corners.........here the engine stays flat, but all the oil will be thrown to the side risking oil starvation.

Honda obviously planned some wheeling and positioned the pick up near the back, so you could tilt the engine back a bit and not cause a problem.

but if I was you, I would get a good welder to put some baffle plates in the sump to ensure that the pick up always had oil when cornering, and place the engine so the pickup was as low as possible [ie tilted back]

[nat]

Cheers guys, oh just a play thing for off road but i have plans for many a beast! Thanks for all replies, i was thinking on the wheelie and lean issues but it's a different thing with acceleration vis-a vis oil position. In essence with it tranversely mounted i would be pushing oil to the right(in bike) of the engine i.e opposite side to output shaft in acceleration and back to the output (left in bike) in braking. I'm almost sure it'd be fine, especially with strainer in a well but just checking. Why don't i pull the sump:- well it's a bit mucked up at mo and it'll get worse as i build! There's one thing i can't abide and that's an engine full of grit . So, until it's fitted and all bracketry/pipes etc etc are done, ill leave it . Then comes steam clean- yadda yadda. Ya know what i mean eh.

On a side note, if anyone has some exhaust stubs (even with the bends) that they're junking for the 'loud stuff' could you let me know as i've gotta make the system aswell. The only thing apart from clocks i didn't 'purr-chase'. Thanks again to all that have replied, trust me when i say it aint over till the fat lumpy cams sing.