New here what is all this about the Cam chain Tensioner

RQ · Post by RQ » Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:33 pm

No bother. Better to know !!

Orange Robbie · Post by **Orange Robbie** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:01 pm

Bluesman

Now - how often you heard about CCT problems on CBR600 PC25? Never? correct... On Hornets? Never? Correct.

CBR 600 FY, new CCT @ 3500 miles, mate 01 Blade new CCT at 5000 miles, has always been an achillies heel of Honda, very good friends of mine were mechanics for Honda dealerships in the 70's, same problems then as now, just a design fact. Any manufacturer has these design facts, just gotta live with them, pay's ya money + takes ya choice.

My strom has only 3400 miles on it, now on it's 3rd battery, and is always run on an optimiser. Someone tell me about that?

cupasoop · Post by **cupasoop** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:08 pm

Orange Robbie wrote:My strom has only 3400 miles on it, now on it's 3rd battery, and is always run on an optimiser. Someone tell me about that?

Bloody suzuki, why did they choose that name. Everytime I read it I think It's a spelling mistake.

kingster · Post by **kingster** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:09 pm

Orange Robbie wrote: My strom has only 3400 miles on it, now on it's 3rd battery, and is always run on an optimiser. Someone tell me about that?

Mine lasted from new (Jan '99) until last week.

Might be pointing a problem with your charging system m8...

bluesman · Post by **bluesman** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:45 pm

Orange Robbie wrote:Bluesman
Now - how often you heard about CCT problems on CBR600 PC25? Never? correct... On Hornets? Never? Correct.
CBR 600 FY, new CCT @ 3500 miles, mate 01 Blade new CCT at 5000 miles, has always been an achillies heel of Honda, very good friends of mine were mechanics for Honda dealerships in the 70's, same problems then as now, just a design fact. Any manufacturer has these design facts, just gotta live with them, pay's ya money + takes ya choice.

My strom has only 3400 miles on it, now on it's 3rd battery, and is always run on an optimiser. Someone tell me about that?

Of course that's possible - I can continue that list:

my friend 's Kawasaki Vulcan 750 - after 30 000 km, CCT gone. Vulcan owners saying that CCTs achilles heel of Vulcan

but I failed to find spare for him, cos Kawa dealers in Belgium useless...
another old friend - GSX400FW - after 17000 km, bent valves (grey import), nobody had a clue why chain jumped and CCT did not do it's job..

I agree - it's one's choice....
I just think it's all about statistics, not particular case....
My dealer keep telling me that he has more CBRs (blades) than VTRs gone with CCT, but then you can not compare sold figures for VTR here and CBRs here..
Never heard such story about CBR600 PC25 series thou...

Ah, one more - Ducati 749 of another mate...not CCT, his generator rotor dispenced itself into pieces and blocked engine

Sorry, should no have brought demons to thread

That's why I want RC51 engine in CBR1000RR frame with no plastic

Anyway - if you are on 3rd battery, almost guaranteed that you either have a periodic shortcut in generator or your RR are half-alive (it can be exactly half-live, even if it is still seem to work).

Did you tried to check how many volts you have on battery contacts at medium - high RPMs? If it is between above 13.8-14.4 that's normally OK, but if more -

new RR needed...

dodds · Post by **dodds** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:23 pm

Mine went yesterday on the way home from work

, the front one went while starting to go up hill in third at about 30 ( steady throtle) , i was also only on a trackday a couple of weeks ago flying around cadwell so i'm glad i didnt go then, what are the CCT mods talked about as i dont want to go through this again, cheers. ps bike in lots of bits and could be off the road for a while as i'm not sure if anything is bent yet

but never fear del is on the case

kingster · Post by **kingster** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:47 pm

Bad luck m8.

Make sure you check the valve timing, but even if it's out, it will probably be OK once sorted. I was expecting bent valves etc, but nowt that a bit of time with the tank, head cover and fairing off didn't sort.

Funny how we both had the CCT go at 30 in 3rd up a hill after a Trackday

- must be what does it then

Did you hear any odd noises in first a few miles beforehand?

Kingster

tony.wilde1 · Post by **tony.wilde1** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 3:09 pm

Thank you for your email.

Honda have not issued an updated part, we would really need to see your bike to check if it is affected by the problem you have described. Please let me know if you are able to pop in for a free check.

I look forward to hearing from you very shortly.

Regards

William Lewis
E-Commerce Specialist
Chiswick Honda
Norton Way Motors

well...this is a contradiction ..honda uk told me that the cct's have been updated 5 times....obviously not...pop in for a check?my butt!oh well so it goes on...

Max · Post by **Max** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 3:14 pm

Hi tony, nearly up to 2000 miles now, no problems and no strange noises......

RQ · Post by RQ » Mon Oct 11, 2004 3:33 pm

Hey Tony, thats the guy in Chiswick Honda I get me bits from. He didn't know anything about a CCT problem when I was getting gaskets for the CCT from him.

tony.wilde1 · Post by **tony.wilde1** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 3:38 pm

rq...sorry mate...it asnt him that told me the cct's have been updated ok?just sent a form from their site an dsomeone came back with the answer ...cheers...

max....glad to hear no probs with manual tensioners...i should of kept the buggers,,haha!!cheers.

RQ · Post by RQ » Mon Oct 11, 2004 3:47 pm

I'm having one of those days where other peoples inability to do their jobs is wrecking my head so I decided today was the day to contact Honda about the CCTs.
Well, as there is no contact details available for Honda in Ireland, I have to contact the UK. The feedback section on the website says that the will not enter into discussion on anything related to servicing or products, and if you want to discuss these matters please call... 01753 590510 (for motorcycles). Methinks when I'm wound up good and proper at about 5 I'll give them a call.

tony.wilde1 · Post by **tony.wilde1** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 4:00 pm

thats a number i called..and they told me that honda have adressed the prob and updated accordingly??????

but they havent!!does yer ferkin head in all this bs dont it ?oh well

tony.wilde1 · Post by **tony.wilde1** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 4:16 pm

Dear Mr Wilde
Thank you for your enquiry which was passed to the Customer Services
Department. Their reply follows:-
"If you purchased a tensioner today, it would be modified compared
to the
original one supplied by the factory.

Thank you and best regards
Guy"

so what are they trying to say?yes there is a modded cct?or not?3 different answers from 3 bona fide people??????

RQ · Post by RQ » Mon Oct 11, 2004 4:18 pm

Aaarrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Why can't they just say there is a BIG problem with the CCT's. I mean, if every post about CCT's is about them failing and some are leading to fairly disasterous engine casseroles with bits floating surely it's time to put the hands up and say ok, we admit it, we ballsed up, the CCT's are sh1te. Hey suppose they can't do that either or they'd be liable for all the previous ones that went pop. Catch 22.

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New here what is all this about the Cam chain Tensioner

of course

feck it

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email from honda...another one!!!