not 100% on this

[vtwin goody]

so the question is how much do you believe on the cct threads? i know most on here have done the change or stopper mod but do,s it really need doing? i agree they will they changing at some point but are the honda ones really that bad? i,ve spoken to a few local storm owners that still run on the originals (me included on an 02 plate and 23000 miles)my storm runs sweet but at the milage the cct,s will be getting done soon,so believe the hype or go with mr honda who made them in the first place? not really one for hype meself just after opinions

[Kev L]

Mate, things go wrong in life, as you have just proved by posting your question three times. Search the previous posts on here and the superhawk forum and see how many people have been affected, then make up your own mind. I changed mine to manuals because I didn't trust the originals, but if you trust in the autos then at least do the stopper mod.
Good luck,

[vtwin goody]

ye mate just posted for mod to remove the other 2 posts

[agentpineapple]

a new member just had his oem cct's go at 7,000 miles , you must remember that although mr honda knows best, all motorbikes are built down to a price, i'd take the word of the people on this forum any day, if you added up the mileage each member has done, just think how many miles/expierence that adds up to. just my opinion

[benny hedges]

makes a difference if you actually ride your bike.
and ride it roper, get it to proper temperature etc.
if it just gets a farty run now and then and doesnt warm up proper chances are you'll get condensation forming in the motot, especially inside the front cct cos of the angle it sits at.

[MJONESY]

Manufacturers make mistakes, you only have to google vehicle recalls to see that, as the cct is not a safety issue honda can deny all knowledge of there being a problem as it was cheaper to fix the odd one that was still under warranty than it was to recall every bike with them fitted, (firestorm, Blackbird, Blade the list goes on) and replace them with a solution that's fail safe and they also get the revenue from selling new ccts to owners who are concerned.

There is hype about some things like the throttle position sensor for instance, as some people see massive gains from setting it right and others see none so it maybe just the placebo effect.

Ccts are different as the fact that they can break is proven and there are endless threads on here with people that have had them go, usually to the cost of a couple of hundred quid.

If you have the mechanical knowledge to replace the valves when/if it does go and you also have the time and inclination to do that then leave them be, if you dont then i would do the stopper mod as a bear minimum.

At the end of the day its up to you to make your own mind up, its your bike and your cash to do with as you will, but sods law dictates if it does go it wont be while its ticking over in the garage

It was one of the first jobs i did on the last one and did not even fire the new one up after i got it home till they were done, the way i see it is that prevention is better than cure, it is bit like not lubing your chain till you get a dry link.

[Flatline]

+1 to the above

They guys on here have no hidden agenda, no gain from anyone buying and changing their cct's

Though Bazza on here sells modified cct's on an exchange basis but doesn't advertise the fact

It's the same with the rectifier, it's known to fry, with the battery in the firing line as well

You will see on here that the swing arm can be a problem and its worth checking it out, but no one says it's a must

Unlike cct's and rectifiers

So for £35 and an hour of your time it seems worth while to be on the safe side

And for about £10 do the rectifier at the same time

Hope that helps buddy

[AMCQ46]

The concept of the auto CCT is a good one, and they should be considered service items to be replaced every couple of years......BUT.... on our bikes the failure mode is more severe than on a 4cyl engine, they get a lot off rattling but no damage. We get 10 seconds of rattle then the chain jumps and the valves and piston have a party.

So given that you own a storm you have 3 options
1) denial...so put some money aside for the repairs, £350 should cover it if you do most of the work yourself.
2) replace with manual CCTs
3) make the stock ones failsafe....remove the honda ones, measure the working position, take the plunger off, cut a length of 8mm bar to the measured length, pop that inside the CCT, put the plunger back on, and refit. This is called the stopper mod and what it does is allow the auto tensioner to work as normal, but if the spring breaks, it can't retract fully, as the 8mm bar is limiting its inward travel. With this done you will get a bit of chain rattle when it fails, but you can happily ride home and change the failed unit at your leisure.

For me 3) wins every time, it costs nothing but your time, and if it turns out you were wrong to trust Hondas engineering judgement you dont get punished in the wallet. And as a bonus, if they never fail, you can now keep running the bike and post on here to tell us that in your case we were wrong

[vtwin goody]

cheers lads,option 3 sounds like a good deal