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tony.mon
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Re: Black Frame

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Kev L wrote:Try giving them a call or e-mail they should be able to point you in the right direction of a supplier. All the bikes I have restored/rebuilt have had metal decals with the numbers on, Yamaha FS1-E, Suzuki GT250M, TS250M, TS50x.
The headstock stamped in number is a whole different can of worms with each manufacturer now having their own typeface as well. Good powdercoaters will mask off the headstock number so it can still be read easily.
If they can mask off the headstock number, just get them to mask of the VIN plate as well.
It's not falling off, it's an upgrade opportunity.
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tony.mon wrote:
Kev L wrote:Try giving them a call or e-mail they should be able to point you in the right direction of a supplier. All the bikes I have restored/rebuilt have had metal decals with the numbers on, Yamaha FS1-E, Suzuki GT250M, TS250M, TS50x.
The headstock stamped in number is a whole different can of worms with each manufacturer now having their own typeface as well. Good powdercoaters will mask off the headstock number so it can still be read easily.
If they can mask off the headstock number, just get them to mask of the VIN plate as well.
It's likely the thin plate would become damaged during the heat process
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Re: Black Frame

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Just pulled this off the VIN plate site.
We are often contacted by customers who are restoring a ‘classic bike’ and the frame number has been lost. This generally happens during sand blasting and powder-coating.
I'm personally am going to go down the spray the the frame black myself route. If a good epoxy paint/spray system is used it will be just as hard wearing as powder coating. Whether I totally remove the frame for this or not is another matter. :roll:

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cybercarl wrote:Whether I totally remove the frame for this or not is another matter. :roll:

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Benny hedges sprayed his with the engine still in............think he might have been in a bit of a rush as the overspray onto the coolant expansion tank was the giveaway, but it looked good till you got right up close.
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Benny hedges sprayed his with the engine still in............think he might have been in a bit of a rush as the overspray onto the coolant expansion tank was the giveaway, but it looked good till you got right up close.
Yeh I read about his project. I also like that Chrome spray system he discovered, looks expensive.

Ok I have decided which direction I am going in and which product to use. I will either remove the frame (engine mounting bolts allowing) and then the engine can be done as well. Or will be removing as much as poss and then covering the remains. After doing loads of research on various sprays/options I have decided to use the Eastwood products starting with their primer http://www.frost.co.uk/eastwood-extreme ... -420g.html and then two or three coats of Satin Black http://www.frost.co.uk/eastwood-extreme ... -397g.html This little project will have to wait though as I need my Fazer running first, so shall be a winter project.

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here is a yellow storm with a black frame.......not mine

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That one look nice for a yellow un :-)
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lloydiecbr wrote:That one look nice for a yellow un :-)
it's getting there I reckon, shame about the yellow bits
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Re: Black Frame

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I know you have decided on your route but if it helps I have had my frame and subframe powder coated in a matt black. I took everything off it and only had to mask anything I didn't want coated in masking tape including the vin plate and the paintcode etc... then when it was done I just removed the tape. Despite all the concerns mentioned earlier nothing bent, warped or fell off with the rivets disappearing.. it is just a black frame with all the labels,plates etc in the same position and uncoated.
Why ask... sometime you just go to do it and find out?
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Thanks for that info, very interesting. Which company did you have do the powdercoating? I'm surprised the tape or labels didn't get burnt off. 8O Was it all sand/grit blasted before the powdercoat?

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Re: Black Frame

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I'm no expert on powder coating but I wouldn't expect masking tape to survive the heat process. Powder Coating is capable of melting the VIN plate itself.

Having said that - I stand to be corrected, as in truth - I know Jack S*** about Powder Coating lol
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The powdercoating is done by a friend at his work place, anything I have done in the past has been masked in the same manner and with no problems after he said it'll be fine. It is only an oven at the end of day.. I have had three sets of wheels done, the frame, subframe, swingarm, levers, footrests.. and other stuff done and anything that needed to be masked has just been with masking tape. It is a lot harder to get of than it is to put on though.

Seems to work on everything i've done to date with no adverse side effects or spontaneous combustion of any description...

The frame was done as standard for coating... I bead blasted all the other bits to get rid of all the old paint when I had them done. The frame was a little too large for my beadblasting cabinet.
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Re: Black Frame

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this stuff looks like it would do the job..... :thumbup:
http://www.frost.co.uk/high-temp-satin- ... rosol.html
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