why are storms so cheap?

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why are storms so cheap?

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ive had a few bikes and by far the best one ive had is the storm. its alot like my cbr 600 f, but has so much more tourqe. the build quality is typical honda (go on forever). compared to my last bike, a 97' bandit, its miles better. fair enough people get put off by cct failure, but jeasus christ i paid 1200 quid for a pretty much mint 1000cc bike. once you get some manual cct's on and keep it serviced i bet these things will go on forever. checked today and mines even got a new fanned rectifererererer. i personaly think the styling is timeless too, i mean its an old bike but if you dont know bikes you wouldnt know it was 14 years old. bloody well chuffed with mine cant wait to start pooring money into it :D anyone know why these bad boys are so cheap? seems crazy to me
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Because they are a bit pants, never a proper sports tourer never a super sports, not got the grunt and status of a TL1000, and at the time of launch a poor man's Duke who wanted a better built bike than the suzuki, the 90's vtwin boom was short lived.

It's only people that have owned a storm that don't over look them and know there merits

If the storm had a large tank from the start I think it would have been a different story, 21ltr would have made it a fantastic B road mile muncher

But then it would have taken sales from the VFR so it was never going to work with the blade as the sports option and the VFR as the sports tourer

Pants suspension doesn't help resale either, and it's a heavy lump too till you swap bits

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They weren't the most expensive when new, they were built in Spain and don't have the same quality of finish as Jap built bikes. They tend to go a bit cheaper as that era twins are a bit out of fashion now.. build quality is not really any better than a bandit, the same stuff corrodes over winter, ie engine cases, brake fittings etc, thin paint on the wheels doesn't help. they hardly changed the model through it's life which means older ones are pretty much just the same and keep prices of all years down. they didn't make a big deal of the later bigger tank model so people believe they all run out of gas at 100 miles. CCT problems aren't generally known about if you don't own one so i don't think that keeps prices down, fitting manuals is good if your mechanically minded and know how to maintain them but i don't think they're a selling point, the stopper mod sounds much better, just fit and forget until it rattles, then fit new ones, they cost less than a chain & sprocket set.
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seb421 wrote:

Pants suspension doesn't help resale either

Oh yeah that aswell, how they let a bike be released with such crap forks and unforgiving shock i'll never know :o

TL1000's were supossed to be much faster and gruntier, i've ridden them and i don't think they are, also had a mate with one and on speed and roll ons mine and his were always side by side, he was lighter than me too.
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i looked into getting a TL1000 but didnt trust the built quality lol (and there all a bit more exspensive). ive heared a few people say suspension is shite, i havnt been getting my knee down yet or anything but ive given it some stick and so far i think its up to the job, i commute on mine so i dont really want it rock hard. i had a 750 vfr and i just thought it was just...bleh, boring, nice to ride but just wasnt for me. sappose it like anything, down to personal taste :beer:.

and yeh the tank size is a bit of a joke, reserve after 12 litres??? gaaaay :thumbdown:
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they were built in Spain
Are you sure about that? - My VIN no. starts with JH2SC36 which indicates it was made in Japan

JH2=WMI Honda Japan

Anyone with VTM=Montesa/Honda Spain?

e.g. JH2RD07ABTM000992 or JH2RD07A1YM417129
JH2: country of production (JH2=WMI Honda Japan, 1HF=Honda America, ZDC=Honda Italy, VTM=Montesa/Honda Spain)
RD07A: type (here Africa Twin)
B: version
1: control number (1-9 or X)
T: year (T=1996, V=1997, W=1998, X=1999, Y=2000, 1=2001 ... 6=2006)
M: factory (M=Hamamatsu/Japan, K=Kumamoto/Japan, A=Ohio/USA, F=Atessa/Italy, E=Barcelona/Spain
000992: serial number

So mine JH2SC36A4VM8****** was '97 built in Hamamatsu/Japan.

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Wicky wrote:
they were built in Spain
Are you sure about that?

No It seems :lol: Never really thought about it much, just gone by what i was told when i bought my 1st one new in 2000, the dealers always right yeah :roll: It appears the very-dear-oh was built in spain (firestorm engine) aswell as the deuville and other smaller models, although i would say the finish on the firestorm is very similar to the above Spanish built bikes than the Jap ones, so i never thought to question it.
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Cheap to insure too compared to other 1000cc bikes. :thumbup:

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cybercarl wrote:Cheap to insure too compared to other 1000cc bikes. :thumbup:

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yup, i think you would have to be retarded not to own a storm :lol: 300 quid fire theft for me cheap as chips!
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hugeduck wrote:
cybercarl wrote:Cheap to insure too compared to other 1000cc bikes. :thumbup:

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yup, i think you would have to be retarded not to own a storm :lol: 300 quid fire theft for me cheap as chips!
That's not that cheap mate?

have you shopped around, what mileage have you declared etc
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seb421 wrote:
hugeduck wrote:
cybercarl wrote:Cheap to insure too compared to other 1000cc bikes. :thumbup:

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yup, i think you would have to be retarded not to own a storm :lol: 300 quid fire theft for me cheap as chips!
That's not that cheap mate?

have you shopped around, what mileage have you declared etc
i'm 24 with no bike no claims so aint that bad is it? or have i just been mugged off?
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220 for me third party only and that's living in London. But I am well past the 25 mark. I believe 25 is the last big drop for insurance. If I was out in the sticks it would be half that price.

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That's not a bad price then mate :thumbup:

If you go with MCE you can use a mates bike too and be legally covered on it

Who have you gone with?
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seb421 wrote:That's not a bad price then mate :thumbup:

If you go with MCE you can use a mates bike too and be legally covered on it

Who have you gone with?
got the quote through admiral, they passed me onto a company called H & R then they said i was insured under another company :confused so wombles knows. as long as i'm insured and its cheap i dont care lol. on my 600 bandit i was insured to ride any other bike but i think if the cc is above 600 you have to be over 27.
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hugeduck wrote:
seb421 wrote:That's not a bad price then mate :thumbup:

If you go with MCE you can use a mates bike too and be legally covered on it

Who have you gone with?
got the quote through admiral, they passed me onto a company called H & R then they said i was insured under another company :confused so wombles knows. as long as i'm insured and its cheap i dont care lol. on my 600 bandit i was insured to ride any other bike but i think if the cc is above 600 you have to be over 27.
Nah with MCE you can be any age / any cc as far as I'm aware, but cover is only 3rd party, your own bike has to be in order (MOT / TAX etc) and the other bike has to be privately owned MOT'ed Tax insurance etc to be able to use it

Use that bikeinsuere site and have a look on there
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