Electrical fault

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Rob
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Re: Electrical fault

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When I fitted LED rear indicators I fitted a resistor in parallel to draw the same current. When I changed the front later I couldn't be arsed so chucked the rear resistors and bought an electronic flasher module (Plug and play) which is stable regardless of current draw. The standard module is bi-metal strip so will vary the speed depending on current drawn. And as you know LED and bulb draw very different amounts!

If you still have the original flasher module then this is probably the problem.

p.s. Also have an HNC in Electrical/Electronic Engineering :D
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cheers Rob

I was going crazy last night, brain was fried and couldn't work out what was going on.
As you say its current draw, as soon as you load the system up with more draw from battery etc the flash rate changes. didn't think of that lol been working on bike almost all day and that one didn't come to mind lol
why are the relays so expensive!
at least all the terminals are clean now. still going to convert the head light over with a set of relays so I can a better illumination of the road out of it as its pants lol

Cant see the wood for the trees comes to mind. dont think it helped I was trying to put bike back together at 11 at night lol
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Re: Electrical fault

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well ended up replacing the flasher module anyway and half way through doing the headlight upgrade
So getting there.
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Re: Electrical fault

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I doubt fitting a relay will make any difference unless your switch gear is high resistance. Unlikely, high current normally keeps contacts clean, it's low current that causes problems in my experience.

Relays are expensive, bought one for my heated grips after I left them on and had a flat battery. :thumbdown:

Best way to improve your headlight is to buy a new bulb. Been a few years since I got mine from Halford but it was 50% brighter or something supposedly for the same wattage. Not sure about 50% but it is much, much better than the original.
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Re: Electrical fault

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Rob wrote:I doubt fitting a relay will make any difference unless your switch gear is high resistance. Unlikely, high current normally keeps contacts clean, it's low current that causes problems in my experience.

Relays are expensive, bought one for my heated grips after I left them on and had a flat battery. :thumbdown:

Best way to improve your headlight is to buy a new bulb. Been a few years since I got mine from Halford but it was 50% brighter or something supposedly for the same wattage. Not sure about 50% but it is much, much better than the original.
fitting the relays to the head light works the head light is a lot brighter with standard bulb new or old .
many of us have done it and we all have noticed a big improvement :thumbup:
give it a go you might like it :beer:
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TonyW650 wrote:Ok guys I've got one for you.

Now I know a fair old bit about electronics and electricals, having a hnc in electronics engineering and a fully qualified spark and fire alarm engineer. I deal with electrics all the tie but now I'm stupped with the Storm
Ive checked and clean all the earths but its just got me stupped.
dont matter if engine is running or not.
turn left or right signals on they flash ok.
turn on left or right signal and then flash head light or turn the head light on and the flash rate changes.
its like its got a earth fault from somewhere.
only changes I have made recently is fitted front and rear led indicators and a led tail light.
had a new reg rec a few weeks back, and ive tried it with a couple of differant batteries, no change.
got me completely stumped

Help!!!!!
Hi don't know if you have fixed this yet or not, but after my bike got flooded when we had bad rains a month or two ago this was happening to my bike, as well as another electrical problem, took all the electrics apart where possible dried and cleaned all contacts and used some Vaseline round some to stop water penetration again

CDI / ECU was also taken off and dried with a hair dryer too as water had made its way in

left the bike in a heated garage for two nights and it worked spot on after that.
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Re: Electrical fault

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Hey Seb

all appears to be ok now, As Rob says it was current draw that was causing the issue, stripped and cleaned the l/h switch gear and clean all the plugs etc....
fitted a new indicator relay one specific for led indicators and its solved it.
decided to do the relay conversion for head lights anyway, but didnt get enough cable from maplins so relays fitted and tucked up under fairing, just got to make a little sub-loom for the trigger from original headlight socket and up to new on, fed the cabling back to battery, and found that rogue hose I was asking about that seems to go no where lol, but God Mon says dont worry about the hose lol

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Re: Electrical fault

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lloydiecbr wrote:fitting the relays to the head light works the head light is a lot brighter with standard bulb new or old .
many of us have done it and we all have noticed a big improvement :thumbup:
give it a go you might like it :beer:

I suppose if the wiring is thin and takes a longer route due to going to the switch then there might be some voltage drop which would reduce power. Thicker wire straight from the battery via relay/inline fuse could help. :thumbup:
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