Faded paint best way to restore help please
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Faded paint best way to restore help please
Hi again ppl I have a yello storm one full half of the bike has faded just wondering if anyone has any good tricks up there sleeve to restore it without full respray or residuals work
Thanks
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Re: Faded paint best way to restore help please
Being yellow you can only hope and pray that the other half fades down to match. You might even strike really lucky and fade to grey (Steve Strange/Visage reference there for those who remember the 80's!)
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Re: Faded paint best way to restore help please
id hope that it hasn't had a replacement panels fitted that are a different shade .
if they are the same tcut and plenty of rubbing
if they are the same tcut and plenty of rubbing
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Good luck - as the pearl yellow is prone to fading if kept outside. My reddun at the front went a nice shade of dusky pink and eventually needed a respray.
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Re: Faded paint best way to restore help please
Thanks guys will try a t cut
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Chric will be along shortly and give you the best advice but basically you need to polish it, not wax but polish. they are two totally different things.
I have used the Menzerna range on newly painted paontwork before and it's superb.
http://www.menzerna.com/en/products/pol ... ve-paints/
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksi ... &_from=R40
You can buy sample pots from some detailing stores for a about £1.50p each.
You would be better off with the Farecla G3 range than T-cut. T-cut is a bit old hat.
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I have used the Menzerna range on newly painted paontwork before and it's superb.
http://www.menzerna.com/en/products/pol ... ve-paints/
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksi ... &_from=R40
You can buy sample pots from some detailing stores for a about £1.50p each.
You would be better off with the Farecla G3 range than T-cut. T-cut is a bit old hat.
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Re: Faded paint best way to restore help please
once the paint fades its very tough to bring back to life, red is the worst, it used to be called blooming, when the paint oxidised over time, i'm sure chris will be along shortly to tell me i'm talking pish!!!!!!!!!
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Pish posh
Blooming = is a milky film that appears over the finished colour coat as it dries. It's due to water condensing on the paint surface as it dries in a cold or humid environment.
I learnt that lesson the hard way trying to paint a Guzzi with 2-pack in an unheated garage in winter.
Best way to prevent paint fade or at least slow it down is garage it or use a cover when parked up. Alternatively slap on factor 15 sunscreen...
Blooming = is a milky film that appears over the finished colour coat as it dries. It's due to water condensing on the paint surface as it dries in a cold or humid environment.
I learnt that lesson the hard way trying to paint a Guzzi with 2-pack in an unheated garage in winter.
Best way to prevent paint fade or at least slow it down is garage it or use a cover when parked up. Alternatively slap on factor 15 sunscreen...
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Re: Faded paint best way to restore help please
Yeah try something like G3 or Tcut and rub it down to see if it restores any colour.
Chances are though it wont get much better if it has been bleached by the sun.
I used to have a red car that had a sun bleached roof and bonnet. Polishing would restore them a little, but only for a week or so and they would fade again pretty quickly. Red was really bad for it, but older red cars had no lacquer on which made it easier to polish. From what I understand, if your yellow paint has lacquer over the top, polishing will do no good until you polish right through that clear layer.
Chances are though it wont get much better if it has been bleached by the sun.
I used to have a red car that had a sun bleached roof and bonnet. Polishing would restore them a little, but only for a week or so and they would fade again pretty quickly. Red was really bad for it, but older red cars had no lacquer on which made it easier to polish. From what I understand, if your yellow paint has lacquer over the top, polishing will do no good until you polish right through that clear layer.

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+1Blooming = is a milky film that appears over the finished colour coat as it dries. It's due to water condensing on the paint surface as it dries in a cold or humid environment.
You need to polish it with rubbing compounds. using a compounding solution like T-cut will take for ever by hand unless it's only lightly faded in which case T-cut is too harsh and will remove too much top coat. Also it is a consumer product so not all that good. Use more professional bodyshop/detailing products, preferably with a mechanical orbital or rotary polisher, but this takes a certain level of skill. Always start with the least destructive and work it in. Less is more. If you go too hard at it then you will burn through the clearcoat into the paint which is not good.
Here's a video for the 3M range of polishes.
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Re: Faded paint best way to restore help please
for some reason, in spain, green cars suffer more than any other colour, you only leave your car in the midday sun once, i did it with a black leather interior in the middle of summer....
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Re: Faded paint best way to restore help please
But if the paint particles themselves, underneath the clearcoat are bleached / oxidised, then how will polishing the clear coat help?

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post some hi res pictures and we will have more have an idea.
If I cant help i'll post it on detailing world or ask one of many detailers i know
If you had been near barnsley id have had a bash at it.
Tanks are piss easy with a rotary like cars with being steel bodywork more caution needed with been plastic due to heat build up can cause blistering easy.
Always work from least aggresive up then back down once perfect combo found
If I cant help i'll post it on detailing world or ask one of many detailers i know

If you had been near barnsley id have had a bash at it.
Tanks are piss easy with a rotary like cars with being steel bodywork more caution needed with been plastic due to heat build up can cause blistering easy.
Always work from least aggresive up then back down once perfect combo found
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They are not the clearcoat is! unless the clearcoat has been previously been over polished in the past and there is hardly any protection left. It's like having dirty windows. Whatever is underneath will look bad. Have you ever seen badly applied clearcoat, it has no glossiness to it. It's the same when it dulls.But if the paint particles themselves, underneath the clearcoat are bleached / oxidised, then how will polishing the clear coat help?
Red is the worst colour because of the Red Oxide pigment. Different pigments behave differently. If you have ever painted a room Red you will notice it always takes double the amount of coats than normal to cover.
Anyway lets see some pics.

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pad choice is always a factor as well but hopefully i may have something in my bag of goodies what may help
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But like said pictures then i'll do a bit of investagateing for you

If it dont tuff tit I tried my best

But like said pictures then i'll do a bit of investagateing for you
Ill never be a sell out storm forever