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8541Hawk wrote:
PARSLEYRIPPER wrote:Hmmm good ole US of A, bet its down south. I cringe every time he throws it away.
And why would you say that? Ever been here?
Yes, and also worked with the American military for 6 months in Germany and have MANY american friends who also laugh at themseves. I think the Simpsons is some of the most subtle humour and its made in the good ole USA. It was NOT a personal dig but if you want to take it as one, fair enough.

Do you remember the "big cok from Little Rock" the guy with no shirt on reminded me of him thats all, sounded like him too :lol:
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AMCQ46 wrote:2nd gear and ride along just below 4000 revs then dip the clutch open the throttle and it comes up nice and slow. As others have said, it's not the easiest bike to balance, but it does come up easly :D
I shall go practice :D
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PARSLEYRIPPER wrote:
AMCQ46 wrote:2nd gear and ride along just below 4000 revs then dip the clutch open the throttle and it comes up nice and slow. As others have said, it's not the easiest bike to balance, but it does come up easly :D
I shall go practice :D

Be careful! And let us know how you get on :)
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geodude wrote:Love watching the wheelie learning process :thumbup:
Well... There's wheelies... And then there is 12' clock wheelies... And those are plain dumb... Riding a wheelie is fun, trying to do a 12' clock is a sure fire way of ruining a good bike... You reduce lubrication when you wheelie, and at that angle you are testing the limits for sure... Besides the obvious risk of flipping it over, then...

A "normal" wheelie I can pretty much ride for as long as I want, given a straight enough road... 12' clock... Never really tried it, besides on an old dirt bike that I didn't mind trashing...
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Tweety wrote: Well... There's wheelies... And then there is 12' clock wheelies... And those are plain dumb... Riding a wheelie is fun, trying to do a 12' clock is a sure fire way of ruining a good bike... You reduce lubrication when you wheelie, and at that angle you are testing the limits for sure... Besides the obvious risk of flipping it over,
You sound like my mum. "Don't do that or you'll hurt yourself" or "Don't drag your feet, you'll ruin a perfectly good pair of trainers" :P hehe
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PARSLEYRIPPER wrote:Wheelie off the throttle in 2nd gear? I have not had mine long and have been struggling to get a controlled front wheel up in first, If you open the throttle in first (crack it wide open) it comes up so fast I am struggling to keep it up in a controlled way. If you just opened it wide and left it it would just flip on its back :(
In 2nd gear it also comes up pretty fast with no clutch needed but is a bit more controllable.
What gearing do you have?
Mine will not to that with Standard Gearing.

Some good advice regarding wheeling been given..... I haven't mastered a wheelie on the Storm yet, but on other bikes i've owned, and i was sh1t house at covering the rear brake, probably why the longer i stayed on the back wheel, the closer to coming off i knew i was getting.
I was never a master of the wheelie like some of my mates.... To them its like walking on the side walk, they don't understand what all the fuss is about.
I was more a 2nd...... 3rd...... 4th......5th(sometimes)... ahhhhhh sh1t this is way too fast, time to put it down kinda guy.
A nice long incline always helped too, i could never do a great wheelie on the flat or downhill.
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Salty Dog wrote:
PARSLEYRIPPER wrote:Wheelie off the throttle in 2nd gear? I have not had mine long and have been struggling to get a controlled front wheel up in first, If you open the throttle in first (crack it wide open) it comes up so fast I am struggling to keep it up in a controlled way. If you just opened it wide and left it it would just flip on its back :(
In 2nd gear it also comes up pretty fast with no clutch needed but is a bit more controllable.
What gearing to you have?
Mine will not to that with Standard Gearing.
Mine will do that with stock gearing all day long, even with 95K miles on her...... though I do have a few engine tweaks and other bits and bobs now (i.e. lighten the flywheel and she'll loft the front end even quicker) but even with a stock engine and a dialed in set of carbs that is how a VTR is supposed to run :thumbup:
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"Don't drag your feet, you'll ruin a perfectly good pair of trainers"
Now where have I heard hat before. :lol: :think:

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Salty Dog wrote: What gearing do you have?
Mine will not to that with Standard Gearing.
Mine is standard and it does it, usually because I think I'm still on a 33bhp Hornet and pin the throttle wide open when exiting a roundabout. :oops:

That will take some getting used to :lol:
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Mmmmm ok, i'll have to give this more investigation.
So far i have not been using the clutch to loft the front up, just trying to find the low down meat of the power to pull it up just on the throttle.
Cant say i've found it a willing bike stand up as easy as others have mentioned?

About the only time i have it pull in the air is under hard acceleration in 2nd during a flip/flop changing line out of a corner...

How many revs on board when you pull it up? Gear?
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2nd gear roll on mine came up about 6 inch at best unless over a crest then it would try to flip but I'm a big guy at 6f4" 17 stone so that can't help
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mine needs clutch to come up far enough in 2nd. just on power it is only a few inches .
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Well, i agree with that.... pretty much what mine does.
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http://www.stuntlife.com/forums/443-stu ... basic.html

Great article. It's focused on stunting but the principles are still the same.

I especially love this bit as its where I am stuck at the moment. I need to grow some!!

Using the rear brake: Slowing wheelies down / 12s
Wheelies are slowed down by riding the wheelie behind the balance point. This is one of the hardest parts of learning to wheelie, not because of skill, but because of the balls required. To learn how to use the rear brake, you basically need to grow some balls, bring the wheelie up behind the balance point, and tap the brake. Soon this process will become second nature. To slow a wheelie down, you must give the bike enough throttle to get the wheelie behind the balance point. Now if you get scared and push the rear break hard at this point, it will quickly bring the wheelie forward without slowing it down much. To slow it down, you must keep it behind the balance point by gently riding the brake. To 12, you just do the same thing, only you get off the rear break enough to allow the bike to lean back on the tail. Unless you plan on parking a 12, make sure you get back on the brake before the wheelie slows down enough to stall the engine.
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Virt wrote:
Salty Dog wrote: What gearing do you have?
Mine will not to that with Standard Gearing.
Mine is standard and it does it, usually because I think I'm still on a 33bhp Hornet and pin the throttle wide open when exiting a roundabout. :oops:

That will take some getting used to :lol:
I am going to investigate my bike, the prev owner obviously spent a few quid on it, goes like the clappers though. It would wheelie in third on the flat with a bit of encouragement. It might have been tweeked in other areas, carbs, ign etc, I just dont know. :!:
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