which cct?

dansrockin · Post by **dansrockin** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:03 am

hi all, im going to change the ccts on my bike after reading all the info i can, but cant decide which way to go.
so ive set up a poll to see which seems to be the most effective swap. am i better to stick to honda ones and just be careful, go for the stopper mod, or go all the way and put in manual tensioners?
ive seen positives and negatives for all versions, so which is your preferred method and why?
cheers
dan

BigVeeGrin · Post by **BigVeeGrin** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:31 am

i prefer the manuals. Why? Well, I was told to by various sages on here, and also got me to get my hands dirty with the bike

All I can say is the consensus is not to keep the automatic tensioners at all, irrespective of original or replacement, whether stopper or manual???? If you've got a black bike I reckon the red manuals (krieger ones???) add a nice touch.

Watty · Post by **Watty** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:59 am

Krieger manuals for me also

Duffy1964 · Post by **Duffy1964** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:58 am

Krieger manuals on my Blue 03

Krieger manuals on my Streetfighter

Bazza manuals on my slow red winter hack

Saintsman27 · Post by **Saintsman27** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:12 pm

Kreigers from Uncle Sam .. accross the pond

Cost just as much from Holland ..

Wicky · Post by **Wicky** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:15 pm

Bazza or Krieger Manuals > http://www.vtr1000.org/phpBB3/viewtopic ... 16&t=22720

Pros: They prevent your engine grenading into an expensive mess. DIY fitted in a few hours using guide. No special tools required.

Cons: Non really

dansrockin · Post by **dansrockin** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:17 pm

thanks all, so do the tensioners not need the spring in there to take up some of the chain movement? im sure i read either on here or elsewhere that it was needed and could cause failure of the chain if it wasnt?
also there seems to be an issue with some manual ccts unwinding themselves with vibration and causing the problem they are supposed to stop?
sorry if im being a bit dense

but i just want to make sure i do it right first time round!!
thanks again!

Stratman · Post by **Stratman** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:31 pm

dansrockin wrote:thanks all, so do the tensioners not need the spring in there to take up some of the chain movement? im sure i read either on here or elsewhere that it was needed and could cause failure of the chain if it wasnt?
also there seems to be an issue with some manual ccts unwinding themselves with vibration and causing the problem they are supposed to stop?
sorry if im being a bit dense but i just want to make sure i do it right first time round!!
thanks again!

No spring. No it won't cause the chain to fail (if you tension it correctly)
Had mine in 6 years - never unwound themselves, or leaked.
Needed adjustment once in all that time

Beware the cam cover pillar bolts - they do not need very much tightening at all and a heavy hand will shear them off.

Virt · Post by **Virt** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:32 pm

dansrockin wrote: also there seems to be an issue with some manual ccts unwinding themselves with vibration and causing the problem they are supposed to stop?

I think that's caused by fitting them correctly, when they back out? And yes, it does cause a slight problem

If you follow CyberCarls' guide you should be fine, however

Stratman · Post by **Stratman** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:48 pm

Virt wrote:
dansrockin wrote: also there seems to be an issue with some manual ccts unwinding themselves with vibration and causing the problem they are supposed to stop?
I think that's caused by fitting them correctly, when they back out? And yes, it does cause a slight problem

If you follow CyberCarls' guide you should be fine, however

Don't you mean NOT fitting them correctly?

Virt · Post by **Virt** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:01 pm

That's what I meant! Sorry, wasn't thinking

I was meant to type incorrectly but I failed... somehow.

BigVeeGrin · Post by **BigVeeGrin** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:25 pm

Virt wrote:That's what I meant! Sorry, wasn't thinking I was meant to type incorrectly but I failed... somehow.

Virt - can you let us know what companies you code for and we'll be sure to avoi....

chric · Post by **chric** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:28 pm

Virt wrote:
dansrockin wrote: also there seems to be an issue with some manual ccts unwinding themselves with vibration and causing the problem they are supposed to stop?
I think that's caused by fitting them correctly, when they back out? And yes, it does cause a slight problem

If you follow CyberCarls' guide you should be fine, however

did you follow that virt or get some one else to do it

like me

AMCQ46 · Post by **AMCQ46** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:47 pm

Stopper every time.

The spring loaded compensation that Honda planned, and the failsafe back up if/when it fails

And it's free

lloydie · Post by **lloydie** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:22 am

AMCQ46 wrote:Stopper every time.

The spring loaded compensation that Honda planned, and the failsafe back up if/when it fails

And it's free

I've come around to the stopper mod and will be doing it on the track engine tho I have manuals on the road bike .

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