Storm Vs Hayabusa???

essexbloke · Post by **essexbloke** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:39 pm

Ok, little while ago, i got a real hankering after getting a blackbird.... still keeping the storm, just adding to the collection....

Then i got thinking,...... If i'm gonna "upgrade", why not go that little bit further.... get me a Busa......

Trouble is, getting a ride on one is proving difficult... Not many about in the shops.....(unless ya spending serious bucks on new one)

Anyone here owned one? I know they're quick, but how good are they really? any good for hooning? the storm is great for that.....

Over to you guys.....

redstorm · Post by **redstorm** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:46 am

Haven't had a go on the busa, the only bad thing I've heard about them (apart from the looks) are that the rear subframe has a tendancy to crack other wise a stonlking motor by all accounts.
However if your looking for some serious kit I have No17 anniversary V&M built Blackbird (Dyno'd with 184bhp at rear wheel over 200@crank) i might be persuaded to part with if the circumstances were right.
SWMBO wants a new house

VTRgirl · Post by **VTRgirl** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 7:37 am

Essex, are you aware of the reputation that comes with owning a Busa? I don't know about there, but in Oz, it's somewhat akin to that of the R1 rider...

And yes, Red, you're right. They're a very ugly bike.

But with the Storm being ousted from the New Bike Club next year for some inexplicable reason, what are we going to do when it's time for a newy?

Post by **sirch345** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:37 am

Essex mate, my brother owned one which I had the pleasure of riding and this is what I thought:-

I agree with VTRgirl they are not the best looking bike, obviously built with the aerodynamics playing a big part in the design. It is an amazing bike, it feels so planted at a ton, it feels like its on rails and its not much more than ticking over at that speed (or thats how it feels) I would say the engine has loads of torque, producing far more power than any normal road rider will ever be capable of using to its full. I found the seating position excellent, it felt as if you were sitting in the bike rather than being perched on top, which makes you feel part of the bike rather than an extra! When I had my VTR first (on a private road of course) I took my bike up to an indicated 150mph and my brother on his Busa passed me, when I asked him what speed he was doing, he said 175mph in 5th gear, so that meant he still had another gear to go!!! thats how mental they are!!!
I personally probably wouldn't have one myself, simply because it is a bike for absolute speed and would be to tempting to be in licence loosing territory every time I went out, but thats obviously down to the rider!
After saying all that, I think when my brother purchased his (new) it cost Â£8,500 which IMO is dirt cheap for a bike of that engineering and capability. One thing against it for touring (who buys a Busa with touring in mind ?) with all that BHP it eats rear tyres for breakfast, which means if you go on a long trip you may need to replace the rear tyre before you make the return journey! But thats not criticism, its going to be a fact with any bike producing all that power!

I hope thats some help,

Chris.

essexbloke · Post by **essexbloke** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:10 pm

Hmm pretty much was i was looking for....

So they are pretty good at scratchin too.....

bit confused by the Ozzie bit though.... (what reputation is that then?) i know i'll have to put a load of weight on if i get one - only fat blokes buy them in UK!!!

Just need to get a test ride now....

Post by **sirch345** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 7:03 pm

Another thing Essexbloke, the early ones were unrestricted which was what my brother had, but i'm not sure which year the restricted ones came in force

Chris.

PS.Redstorm mentioned about the rear sub-frame cracking which is true it did for some owners, I think i'm right in saying Suzuki then brought out a replacement which was made of steel rather than aluminium

VTRgirl · Post by **VTRgirl** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 7:36 pm

essexbloke wrote:bit confused by the Ozzie bit though.... (what reputation is that then?) i know i'll have to put a load of weight on if i get one - only fat blokes buy them in UK!!!

I was merely referring to the notable lack of Busa (& for that matter, R1) riders who can actually ride...

Post by **sirch345** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:18 pm

My brother is not over weight either

Chris.

VTRgirl · Post by **VTRgirl** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 5:58 am

Essex, it looks like we'd better keep quite & slowly back away from this thread... It seems these closet Busa-lovers have stumbled across the wrong forum...

Btw, if you're really keen to ride one, why not stroll through the second-hand market?

Alienist · Post by **Alienist** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:21 pm

Chris,
I believe the 99 model is the one of choice to derestrict easily. Well the ones we got over here anyway. All it took was the disconnection of a certain pink coloured wire, reconnecting the ram air tubes and modifying the airbox and if you want getting rid of the stock computer. It worked on the one I was pit crewing for. Nowadays it still looks like a bus, but puts out 550hp on to the rear wheel, not bad. Big turbo and some amazing engineering hidden under the fairing.

Nathan..

Post by **sirch345** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:49 pm

Alienist wrote:Chris,
I believe the 99 model is the one of choice to derestrict easily. Well the ones we got over here anyway. All it took was the disconnection of a certain pink coloured wire, reconnecting the ram air tubes and modifying the airbox and if you want getting rid of the stock computer. It worked on the one I was pit crewing for. Nowadays it still looks like a bus, but puts out 550hp on to the rear wheel, not bad. Big turbo and some amazing engineering hidden under the fairing.

Nathan..

What is the bike being used for

drag racing

Chris.

Alienist · Post by **Alienist** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:55 am

yep, been on the strip for about three years, pulling consistant 9.7 for a 1/4 mile run, 146mph, with no wheelie bars and at that time no turbo. At the moment it is in pieces with parts in America getting worked on for more power. The Americans have the fastest dragracing Hayabusas I believe and you Brits have a few good ones as well. They are rapidly becoming the bike of choice. Relatively cheap to get into the 9 bracket and then like anything, speed costs money

Post by **sirch345** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:28 am

Pretty impressive figures that

I think I'd prefer to have wheelie bars fitted myself

Chris.

Alienist · Post by **Alienist** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:43 am

Seems to be a debate in dragracing over here about whether to have bars or not. Some say yes others no. For me bars mean the nose is kept down and you can put more power onto the rear wheel quicker, and they are supposedly easier to ride. No bars needs more rider skill just to keep it on the track and nose down, but eventually power will demand you put bars on a bike.

I've got bags of respect for a rider with no bars doing anything from 9 down, takes balls and skill.

Nathan..

Post by **sirch345** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:48 am

Alienist wrote: I've got bags of respect for a rider with no bars doing anything from 9 down, takes balls and skill.

Nathan..

I fully agree with that

I have seen bikes such as the Hayabusa having the front forks with weights attached to keep the front end down (for drag racing of course)

Chris.