I Bought It With a Knock

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I installed the anti-rattle gear correctly. I had to check before I filled it with oil and since this is my first one. I tried to load the gear one tooth, which was not possible but I found the the gear has a slight loading off by just a fraction of a tooth. All is well. I worry too much.
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I like others have run my bike for years without the anti rattle gear.
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I just wanted to make my first build by the book. I like understanding what it does before ripping it out. It seems quite ingenious in dealing with gear lash noise. They must have had one too many testers say "Why does it sound like this? Is there something wrong with it?"

It's getting there. The back wheel is on. The oil cooler likewise as is the side stand. Next stop the drive chain install then carbs, plumbing and radiators
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Great work,

Getting there!

Please post a vid when it is running. :thumbup:
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Like kenmoore said, many of us have run without the sub gear A.K.A. anti rattle gear. I made a thread about removing it...http://www.superhawkforum.com/forums/te ... gear-32576
I understand the sub gear's function, but after removing it, I cannot hear a lick of difference in noise.

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Big_Jim59 wrote:I just wanted to make my first build by the book. I like understanding what it does before ripping it out. It seems quite ingenious in dealing with gear lash noise. They must have had one too many testers say "Why does it sound like this? Is there something wrong with it?"

It's getting there. The back wheel is on. The oil cooler likewise as is the side stand. Next stop the drive chain install then carbs, plumbing and radiators
I am currently in Stage1 engine build process, and anti rattle gear will stay. It is just matter of personal choice, I believe that part which is reducing noise between metal gears is good for preventing wear.
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I mounted the new chain and installed the side stand, sprocket cover and clutch slave cylinder. I got the wires from the left side run plugged into the proper receptacles. I filled the engine with oil and spun it on the starter until the oil light flickered out. I installed the Two Brothers exhaust system. All the hooks, supports and scaffolding has been removed and the bike is back on it's own two wheels again. That’s enough for tonight. The carbs and radiators are next. Then we will see it it will go putty putty.

This is such a long march. I told my wife that if something is wrong and I have to strip it down again, I will but I would feel like Marco Polo, having returned from the distant east, only to discover that he had left his car keys on the night stand in the Emperor’s palace and there was nothing for it except to go and get them.

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Oohh getting exciting :/) won't be long now and I'm sure it'll be fine


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good progress............ hope the Marco Polo prophesy is not going to come true :?
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I told my wife that if something is wrong and I have to strip it down again, I will but I would feel like Marco Polo, having returned from the distant east
Well you can get those negative thoughts out of your head. It's funny isn't it. I think we all do it. Have little things that niggle n our minds "did I remember to tighten that up" "did I put that back" "did I remember to grease bla bla bla" "did I torque that one up" :lol:

They look like the same tbros as Marty's. They are loud. Have you got the full system, you headers are looking so clean it's hard to tell and I can't see any springs. Not long now until the big day where you can nervously hit that start button and hear her rubble. The wife that is :lol:

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My only real niggling concern is the valve timing. Between the vague marks on the flywheel, my bad eye sight, and the cam gear marks that never really fully align I am crossing my fingers.
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It runs.

http://youtu.be/eG4HBrMF4XA

I stopped it because it was smoking a lot. I had oiled the header joints for smooth assemble and that was burning off. Tomorrow I will open the door and let it all burn off. I will get it hot and make sure the fan comes on.

It sounds pretty good to me but my wife listened to the video and asked if it was "supposed to rattle like that?"

I guess I got the timing close.
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Good work :thumbup:
Follow Rogers startup procedure next time

1) Check all fluid levels.
2) With the “RUN” button in the OFF position, so the engine cannot fire, turn the engine over for at least 20 seconds. You may need a spare battery or jump leads from another battery as you need sufficient charge left in the battery to proceed immediately to the next stage.
3) With the “RUN” button in the ON position and using the choke attempt to start the engine.
4) Allow to run on “tick-over” for a maximum of 10 seconds then slowly and gently raise and lower the revs to a maximum of 3,000rpm do not “snap” the throttle. Continue like this until NRT is achieved and then switch off the engine.
5) Wait 10 minutes and re-fire the engine. Immediately continue raising and lowering the revs as above to a maximum of 6,000rpm until it reaches NRT. Switch off engine
6) Re-check fluid levels. The bike is ready to ride :thumbup:



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lloydie wrote:Good work :thumbup:
Follow Rogers startup procedure next time

1) Check all fluid levels.
2) With the “RUN” button in the OFF position, so the engine cannot fire, turn the engine over for at least 20 seconds. You may need a spare battery or jump leads from another battery as you need sufficient charge left in the battery to proceed immediately to the next stage.
3) With the “RUN” button in the ON position and using the choke attempt to start the engine.
4) Allow to run on “tick-over” for a maximum of 10 seconds then slowly and gently raise and lower the revs to a maximum of 3,000rpm do not “snap” the throttle. Continue like this until NRT is achieved and then switch off the engine.
5) Wait 10 minutes and re-fire the engine. Immediately continue raising and lowering the revs as above to a maximum of 6,000rpm until it reaches NRT. Switch off engine
6) Re-check fluid levels. The bike is ready to ride :thumbup:

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I pretty much followed that procedure. There were some things you didn't see on the video. Before the carbs were installed I filled the engine with oil and spun it, on the starter, with the plugs out until the oil light flickered off. Once everything was in place I spun the engine a few times with ignition off and then, of course, as you saw, with the ignition on. I have yet to get it to NRT but will do today. I need to recheck fluid levels and check for drips.
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It doesn't sound too bad. Maybe a little tappety, see what she's like when fully warmed up. Good work and I like the short vid. Great commentary and camera angle with lots of viewer attentional bits. Love the lighting coming through the window.

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