Steering (input) point.

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petrolhead
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Steering (input) point.

Post by petrolhead »

Hi, VTR boys & girls.

A question regarding riding, or more precisely how to choose the correct steering point approaching a turn / bend?

On the web you can find a lot of literature about how to set up and ride the bike through turns and bends, but there is very little on where to start the steering input / choosing the steering point. Any views and what would typically be the best steering point, for road driving?
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Fireman on a Storm
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Post by Fireman on a Storm »

For safe road riding. (remember we drive on the left so you may have to swap it round)

On a right hand bend, keep your road position to the left of the road about 0.6m from the kirb (road edge). Follow the line of the road looking round the bend where the road goes.
When you can see the exit (of the bend) and it is safe you can turn harder into the corner.

On a left hand bend, keep your road position about 0.6m left of the centre line. Follow the line looking round the bend where the road goes.
When you can see the exit (of the bend) and it is safe you can turn harder into the corner.

This is a brief extract of safe road craft.

You can get "Police road craft" from Her magesties book shops.
It is the training manual used by the police and many advanced motercycle training organisations, such as the IAM and Rospa.

Cornering on a race tack is different because you can apex the corner for a better speed with no cars coming the other way.

If you apex a corner on the road it could be dangerous.
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Matthew
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Steering Technique

Post by Matthew »

If you are studying to perfect your cornering, then you should also practice how to alter your line whilst you are already halfway into your turn.

You will need to be able to tighten, or loosen the turn whilst your bike is leaned over, automatically and without hestitation.

Anyone like to list the actions to tighten a turn when you are cranked over?

Com'on you fast guys......
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Post by Matthew »

Come on you guys....... give some advice to this forum.

I worry that if you have no comment, then you should not be riding a motorcycle.

Matthew
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WayneM
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Post by WayneM »

Oh go on then. Counter steering is the name of the game here. For example, if you turning right put a little bit of pressure (push not pull!) on the right hand grip and the bike will tighten the turn (or crash depending on how tight your turn already is!) :lol:
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Post by petrolhead »

First never ride more than 75 % of your ability on the road :oops: . Especially in blind bends. Too tighten up your line you need to counter steer, but it is much easier and far more effective and correct if you also use the outside foot peg as a pivot point and push against it with your foot. Also rest / push your outside knee towards the tank. It works just like servo steering on your bike. Ride safe.
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