Anyone swapped the Storm 'box for an SP one?
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Anyone swapped the Storm 'box for an SP one?
I've been looking at closer ratios and there's obvously nothing left that's specific to the Storm. Having had a chat with Nova they've made me think the SP box will fit. Not as close as their Nova SP 'box but better than the Storm.
Some part numbers are exactly the same, the output shaft and input shaft second gear for example, others are the same initial numbers with different mid section letters. It even looks possible to swap just the input shaft/1st gear and 4th gear on to the Storm box and get ratios very close to the SP.
Some part numbers are exactly the same, the output shaft and input shaft second gear for example, others are the same initial numbers with different mid section letters. It even looks possible to swap just the input shaft/1st gear and 4th gear on to the Storm box and get ratios very close to the SP.
Re: Anyone swapped the Storm 'box for an SP one?
why?
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Re: Anyone swapped the Storm 'box for an SP one?
Now that’s a surprising response from you !!! You modding tart ha hamik_str wrote:why?
Re: Anyone swapped the Storm 'box for an SP one?
true (OCMD is my middle name, lol), but I mod with a goal in mind, in response to a need. What does one hope to accomplish here?
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Re: Anyone swapped the Storm 'box for an SP one?
The (Storm) HRC close-ratio box does rear its head from time to time (on jauce.com, for example). That being said, the VTR's broad spread of power (unless you develop it to an ultra-peaky Stage 4 tune, lol), IMO, seems capable of pulling the gaps between gears. Anyhow, who am I to judge someone else's "needs". Good luck on your quest...
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Re: Anyone swapped the Storm 'box for an SP one?
This was only ever about the track, for the road I agree the std gearing is fine.
Anyway on closer inspection of the part numbers I think this could be a straight swap but on comparison of ratios it's not worth it. I might just have found something better to spend my money on .
The Storm and SP are pretty much exactly the same bar the SP's taller 1st gear. That would make setting up a quicksifter slightly easier but I've come round to there being better mods.
Anyway on closer inspection of the part numbers I think this could be a straight swap but on comparison of ratios it's not worth it. I might just have found something better to spend my money on .
The Storm and SP are pretty much exactly the same bar the SP's taller 1st gear. That would make setting up a quicksifter slightly easier but I've come round to there being better mods.
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Re: Anyone swapped the Storm 'box for an SP one?
Yer fit a slipper clutch
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Re: Anyone swapped the Storm 'box for an SP one?
Did it, love it, no more worries about accidentily going back to first on frantic corner entries :-)
Re: Anyone swapped the Storm 'box for an SP one?
So you swapped the box, the gears, or added a slipper clutch?John Orchard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:51 am Did it, love it, no more worries about accidentily going back to first on frantic corner entries :-)
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Re: Anyone swapped the Storm 'box for an SP one?
Yep fitted the box, bloody love it !
I had to make a couple of mods.....
1) The clutch end of the mainshaft has to be ground down 2mm (the RC51 box shaft is 3mm longer on that end).
2) A spacer washer is needed under the original clutch hub nut & washer.
3) I ground down most of the original clutch hub locknut bendable flange, left just ehoughto bend into the detent groove.
I posted more details somewhere on here (or the Superhawk forum, can't remember) somewhere, l'll see if l can dig up the info.
I used the Firestorm shift forks too.
I've been working on carburation since, that has consumed my thinking so much everything else is gone from my brain ;-)
I had to make a couple of mods.....
1) The clutch end of the mainshaft has to be ground down 2mm (the RC51 box shaft is 3mm longer on that end).
2) A spacer washer is needed under the original clutch hub nut & washer.
3) I ground down most of the original clutch hub locknut bendable flange, left just ehoughto bend into the detent groove.
I posted more details somewhere on here (or the Superhawk forum, can't remember) somewhere, l'll see if l can dig up the info.
I used the Firestorm shift forks too.
I've been working on carburation since, that has consumed my thinking so much everything else is gone from my brain ;-)
Re: Anyone swapped the Storm 'box for an SP one?
Here's your Topic on swapping gearboxes:-John Orchard wrote: ↑Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:26 am Yep fitted the box, bloody love it !
I had to make a couple of mods.....
1) The clutch end of the mainshaft has to be ground down 2mm (the RC51 box shaft is 3mm longer on that end).
2) A spacer washer is needed under the original clutch hub nut & washer.
3) I ground down most of the original clutch hub locknut bendable flange, left just ehoughto bend into the detent groove.
I posted more details somewhere on here (or the Superhawk forum, can't remember) somewhere, l'll see if l can dig up the info.
I used the Firestorm shift forks too.
I've been working on carburation since, that has consumed my thinking so much everything else is gone from my brain ;-)
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Chris.