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panos_210
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Injectors?

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Hi there friends.
Has anybody technical data about injectors for xl 1000 v VARADERO?
cc/min etc ?
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panos_210 wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:13 am Hi there friends.
Has anybody technical data about injectors for xl 1000 v VARADERO?
cc/min etc ?
Try a Varadoro site you'll probably have move luck...

There was someone on here who had one & some one trying to get Fi off one to work on a storm but don't hold your breath for a reply as they may not be on here very often...

Try using the search function top right of main page.
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Thanks for the reply my friend.
I search all the net but I don’t have any answer.
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The injectors are probably ok to fit on a Firestorm if that's what you're thinking, but the throttle bodies are too small unless you don't mind losing lots of bhp top end.
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Thanks for the reply’s iam going to turn my carb VARADERO into Efi with stand-alone ecu and searching technical data for VARADERO injectors.
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Just fit the later varadero set. Later ones are fi already.
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I need the specs for the injectors to give the data to ecu.
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If it's a Megasquirt, then you actually do not need "exact" values.
They're fed into the req_fuel value which doesn't necessarily need to be exact. It'll result in different fuel map bin values later which makes exchange/comparison more difficult.
If you have very low or very high values in the map, then you change req_fuel as a kind of total scale factor and re-do the mapping.

You could easily check if you overload the injectors by checking the duty cycle gauges.
In my RD350, I'm at the very edge as I run into 100% at WOT and high rpm (=injectiors need to stay open for longer than one rotation of the engine).

I don't have the Varadero values, as I'm using R6 and CBR1000. They have 220 and 235 ccm/min.
I assume the VTR would need a tad more, so I'd start to calculate a req_fuel with an educated guess of 250-300 ccm/min.

Another way to skin the cat: Build a DIY TB solution and use 2 CBR1000 SC57/59 injectors per cylinder.
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MK_WF wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 11:22 am If it's a Megasquirt, then you actually do not need "exact" values.
They're fed into the req_fuel value which doesn't necessarily need to be exact. It'll result in different fuel map bin values later which makes exchange/comparison more difficult.
If you have very low or very high values in the map, then you change req_fuel as a kind of total scale factor and re-do the mapping.

You could easily check if you overload the injectors by checking the duty cycle gauges.
In my RD350, I'm at the very edge as I run into 100% at WOT and high rpm (=injectiors need to stay open for longer than one rotation of the engine).

I don't have the Varadero values, as I'm using R6 and CBR1000. They have 220 and 235 ccm/min.
I assume the VTR would need a tad more, so I'd start to calculate a req_fuel with an educated guess of 250-300 ccm/min.

Another way to skin the cat: Build a DIY TB solution and use 2 CBR1000 SC57/59 injectors per cylinder.
Thanks my friend I have a Maxx Ecu.
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This guy has measured his SP1 injectors @ 245 ccm/min
http://megasquirt.de/msforum/viewtopic.php?t=3837

But keep in mind that the SP1 has two injectors per cylinder!
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MK_WF wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:25 pm This guy has measured his SP1 injectors @ 245 ccm/min
http://megasquirt.de/msforum/viewtopic.php?t=3837

But keep in mind that the SP1 has two injectors per cylinder!
Thanks a lot my friend.
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