Handle Bar Pinch Bolt - Torque?

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Handle Bar Pinch Bolt - Torque?

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Just fitting the original Clipons back on my bike, and I can't see any reference in the workshop manual to a torque setting for the Handle Bar Pinch Bolts.

(The socket head allen screws that hold the clipons to the forks)

Seems odd, as this is obviously an important item, and they even list torque settting for the bar end weights and calipur mounts but not the bolts that hold the handlebars onto the bike.

Anyone, perhaps have a different manual that might list this setting?

Cheers :)
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14 ft/lbs! :D
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Mine have been on and off like a tarts knickers and I just tighten them to "tight" using the socket set as my torque wrench is too cumbersome to fit behind the fairing. Never had a problem so I wouldn't worry too much! I
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Stratman wrote:Mine have been on and off like a tarts knickers and I just tighten them to "tight" using the socket set as my torque wrench is too cumbersome to fit behind the fairing. Never had a problem so I wouldn't worry too much! I
Hope they don't smell like them as well 8O
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tony.wilde1 wrote:14 ft/lbs! :D
Cheers for that :)

That's 19Nm by the way.

It's been so long since I did any mechanics in the garage, I've gone all metric now :)

That was not far from what I had them done by hand anyway.

Again, thanks.
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Hey Tempest why did you remove the renthalls ? didnt you like the riding position?
Im gonna put some bars on mine and im interested why.
Dont suppose you wanna sell your bars and risers?
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dookie wrote:Hey Tempest why did you remove the renthalls ? didnt you like the riding position?
Im gonna put some bars on mine and im interested why.
Dont suppose you wanna sell your bars and risers?
Hi Dookie.

Ok, in answer to your question :)

I've got a Yamaha TDM850 Twin, which is REALLY comfy to ride (I did not realise HOW comfy till I rode the Firestorm for a week then got back onto my TDM. It was like sitting back on a comfy sofa) :)

Note. I'm not "Having a go" at the Storm with that comment. i'm just stating a fact that I don't suppose anyone would dispute.

The Storm is a racing (style) bike and the TDM is more a sports tourer (that's my own description).

I'm keeping my TDM as it's in Superb condition, I have a top box on the rear, and also have some throw over soft panniers, so if I want to go for a nice relaxing ride and carry some stuff with me (a Picnic perhaps?) The TDM is THE bike to use.

Not quite a quick off the mark and lacking the raw PULL of the Storm, but still nippy enough to loose your licence in seconds, and has the low end pull we all love from our Twins :)

Anyhow.........................

I bought the Storm as a kinda spur of the moment thing. The bike was local, the price was right and I was impressed by the performance.

The thing was, the Renthals (whilst a superb idea) were a bit in-between for me.

They were not high enough to be anywhere near as comfortable as the TDM, and they were not low enough to keep your weight on the front end during hard acceleration.

Yes, without question, if you want to keep a Storm as your only bike, and you want MORE comfort than you currently have, then yes, they are a lot better on your arms than the standard clip-ons.

I can say this, as I've ridden with Renthals for about 2 weeks (only short journeys) and now the Clip-ons are back on, WOW, I can see why people feel it makes their arms ache.

Though, to be fair, that's not a comment that can be levied at the bike cos it's a Storm. I've sat on MANY sports bikes in P&H Motorcycles Crawley and the storm is no worse than any other sports bikes out there.

In actual fact, some bike I've sat on have been FAR worse than the storm. So much so that I've almost felt like I'm falling off the front of the bike in the showroom when I've sat on them.

Also, I accept part of this is my lack of being used to bars like this.
I've gone 23 years without bikes, then a TDM for 8 months, and now a Storm with clipons.

I'm thinking in time my arms will get used to it. It's all a bit new this seating position on the bike.

Now, a personal viewpoint. I think the storm looks a hell of a lot better with the original bars on it.

I know looks are a personal thing, and hey, who cares what they look like if your back and arms are not killing you. but a sports bike with wide Renthals on just did not look right.

Now I've changed them, a few people here (who know nothing about bikes I may say) have said how much better the bike looks now.

Ok, It's not as comfortable, but the originals (or similar clip-ons) just look right.

But, that's just some people's views. To each his or her own. If you liked to look of "Ape Hangers" on a storm, hey, go for it :)

Finally, there was a clearance problem when you tried going near to full lock. Even though the Renthals had been fitted well, and the fairing modified, It was a bit dodgy coming home and turning into my drive, as my hands (on the grips would hit the mirrors ifI turned in too quick.

If I'd not had my TDM, I'd probably have kept the Renthals on.

However, I have my TDM for my comfy riding, so my Storm is for my short nutter runs. (not really the best way to describe it, but it kinda felt right!)

So, I wanted to get the Storm back to how it's supposed to look and be.
Just a few cosmetic tweaks now and I'll be there.

Oh yes, I did mention it a while back, but I did find, under hard acceleration (if you felt like it) you really had to hold on with Renthals as you no longer had the weight on the front end so much.

Also today, I removed the stock 41 tooth rear sprocket and replaced it with a 43 tooth one. which will give even more of a kick to the pickup. So it all kinda tied in together.

As for what I'm doing with my Renthals.
To be honest, it did cross my mind about selling them on, and recouping the cost of putting the bike back to standard, however, I'm honestly thinking for the amount I'm going to get. It's probably worth hanging onto them for the future.

When I come to pass the Storm onto some other lucky owner, it may be quite a plus point to have the Renthals with the bike as an extra, then I can explain the bike is standard, but I'm also suppliying the higher bars in case the future owner feels they'd like a slighty easier on the wrists and back position.

If they were worth a LOT then I'd sell em on, but for the money they seem to go for (as I said) It's probably better longer term to keep them with the bike as the bike has already had the mods (fairing trimmed, top yolk drilled and longer front brake hose) ready to take them again in the future if needed.

Phew...

How's that for an answer :)
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Phew needed a cup of tea for that one :D
Thanks for your answer m8 , being a bit of a scratcher by nature ive decided to leave it a bit and try to get on with the new riding position since i dropped the forks 5mm.
Also dont think ive got the heart to attack my lovely shiny fairing with the dremmal.
Problem for me only realy occurs with my leather jacket and the constant looking up when in traffic not the weight on my wrists.
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dookie wrote:Phew needed a cup of tea for that one :D
Thanks for your answer m8 , being a bit of a scratcher by nature ive decided to leave it a bit and try to get on with the new riding position since i dropped the forks 5mm.
Also dont think ive got the heart to attack my lovely shiny fairing with the dremmal.
Problem for me only realy occurs with my leather jacket and the constant looking up when in traffic not the weight on my wrists.
What's wrong with your jacket?

I know I need a TIGHTER one, esp on the arms.
At any speed all the loose leather flaps around.

(Also blocks my rear view mirrors a bit)

At hight speed it's REALLY noticable, and it would feel so much better with a snug fit on the arms.
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Its the jacket collar m8 its still a bit stiff and dont bend much when im looking up.
Also forgot to say i run a 43t rear sprocket as well , good improvment on standard :D
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Post by Stormin Ben »

Dookie,
I had that problem -the collar was too high at the back
I took it to my local cobbler who charged me £5 to remove the back of it in a nice crescent and re-stitch the edges. Sorted


So whats the problem people have with the Storm riding position?
Is it sore wrists coz if it is I'll bet changing the position of the levers would make a huge difference.
Rotate the brake and clutch lever downwards and you'll find you don't have to have such a kink in your wrists to reach them and they stop hurting
I did 750 miles down to Devon and back over the weekend and the only sore bits were my knees and elbow intermittently and that was only on the straight bits (of which there were not many! :lol: )
I've got an inferiority complex
But its not a very good one!
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