Had a go on the new Fireblade last night

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Had a go on the new Fireblade last night

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Was out for a ride last night up over the Peak district with my cousin on his 06 Fireblade and he was good enough to let me ride it for a few miles well what can i say awesome machine so fast :o could only rev it to 8 thou as its still running in but still really fast made my storm feel slow but the best thing is the handling. This bike inspires confdents in the rider after just a few hundred yards and a few turns i felt at home on the bike and ready to push it further and harder into turns plus its so light and compact. If anybody is looking for a new litre sportsbike than i would recommend the blade :)




Only trouble was he wanted the keys back after a while :( :( :evil:
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but still really fast made my storm feel slow
I know what you mean from when I tried a GSXR-1000. Now, these things ARE faster admittedly, but I checked my speed on the same bit of road, back to back with the Storm and the Gixxer - really no difference, but the Storm FELT slower owing to the lazier engine and less "twitchy" handling.

On the track it might be a different matter, of course....but I don't do tracks so I'm happy!
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As a proud owner of GSXR-1000K6 i can say yes it is faster, yes it handles better, yes it gets much more mpg, yes it sounds good


BUT it is only as fast as the rider and it ISN'T A V-TWIN and for me thats the point the storm may not be the best bike in the world but you can play with it to make it handle better, go faster, sound better.

What can i do to the GXSR.......nothing, it is already faster than me.

Still miss my old storm :cry:
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Burn it...buy another storm with the insurance.. :P
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Post by Tempest »

Interesting............

A Question I'd like to ask..............

Re the Storm V2 low down torque/pulling power at low revs.

On the Fireblade (or other multi) did you (do you) have to work more at getting the revs in the right place to ensure a strong pull from slow bends, roundabouts etc etc etc.

As we all know, the storm can be in totally the wrong gear, at revs way too low, and as you roll on the throttle it just pulls away.

Not having ridden a big multi recently, I'd like to know if they give the same pull as a strom, or you need to drop gear and get the revs back into the right zone before you hit the power again.

Like when someone on another forum replied to my Firestorm vs Yamaha R6 question:

R6's are just awful. Way too peaky. They are like riding an old dirtbike before they started putting power valves on them. The VTR eats them alive on the street. On the track where the revs never drop below a certain point they are fast. Otherwise they are painfully slow, especially for the 200+ pound riders like myself.

Even though this is not really fair as the R6 is giving away 400cc
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Post by Tempest »

No replies?

So do I assume 1000cc inline 4 machines all have the same PULL as a firestorm at low revs, yet tons more power higher up?
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Compaired to the storm i would say that the fireblade is a lot faster at any revs and in any situation but bear in mind that the fireblade is a brand new bike with a lot more power than a firestorm plus try buying a 06 fireblade for £2000. I am sure if i spent the differance in price of the two bikes on my storm it would be a match for the blade also my storm does'nt sound like a hairdryer :lol:
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rst steve wrote:Compaired to the storm i would say that the fireblade is a lot faster at any revs and in any situation but bear in mind that the fireblade is a brand new bike with a lot more power than a firestorm plus try buying a 06 fireblade for £2000. I am sure if i spent the differance in price of the two bikes on my storm it would be a match for the blade also my storm does'nt sound like a hairdryer :lol:
Thanks for the info....

I was just trying to get to grips (mentally) with this torque, and pulling from low revs issue.

From some of the talk on here you'd thing any inline 4 is gutless unless it's in it's powerband and the firestorm pulls hard from 1 rpm :)

Over exageration I know, but (as I said) not having ridden a modern multi, I just don't know how they compare.
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Post by Pete.L »

You've got to remember they are geared with higher ratio's as well.
the Blade has the same torque as my SP even though it is an inline four(and more horse power) it pulls the same as the SP in any gear but keeps on going when mine has ran out of revs. For example 80mph for me is about 4.5k rpm and the blade is about 6.

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Post by bluesman »

Warning: looong post :) since you touched sensitive subject

I have felt same when I had go on 05 Blade. It does not lack torque as long as you are in usable powerband, and you there beceause of gearing difference.
But. The main advantage of any big-bang bike, be it Storm or modified inline four (modified to run 2-2 big bang) is something else.
What I found after all "want-a-new-bike" tests I done :) , and I stay by this statement: when you accelerate in corner, with bike leaned hard - where with i4 I had troubles keeping the line and grip and accelerating at same time in the corner - with Storm I just drop into corner and wind it up while leaned. And I feel the moment when it is too much and it starts loosing rear. But most wonderful thing is - it just grips back on if you a bit back off throttle.
I had been given explanation on theory behind this behaviour. The man, who told me riding sports really fast, but since coupel of years his main "thing" is supermoto. And on his self-made XR based supermotard he manage to lose latest and greatest sprotbikes in twisties in France. It is proved - last time only guy on Speed Tripple suprisingly managed to hold on his tail while R1s and Blades just could not cope on anything less-than-perfect surface. He told me that his impression of Storm is almost like supermoto - come into corner as usual, drop it in, open up when leaned and fly out of the corner already on full gas.
So, what's all this about. If you sort suspension on Storm (good shock, good front) it can do wonders even with it's 100 bhp. With my bike if I do it within 5000-7500 rpms it's hell of fast bike in mountain passes, way more than I can handle. With my previous i4 I honestly was totally suprised when it had lost rear in corner in Alps. This is still my most terrifying memory in 8 years of riding decent bikes. And there was no warning, no way to regain control - nothing, just sit and wait to get killed.
Year later same happened to me at 50 kmph on straight road in rain - it just started to go sideways and going off/on throttle or anything else did not help - I wrestled it for good 30 meters and than wend sliding :(
With Storm unless you have diesel spill kind of thing it's pulsing power makes it feel like ABS on brakes and I am riding twice more enthusiastically and way faster in real life than I ever did on i4.
In previous trip to France in 7 days I never crossed 6500 rpm line because I did not need to and I never lost rest of group I was riding with.
Add to that fact that 160 quid can convert Storm in perfect tourer (second hand panniers/rack and spare rear plastic to cut, few days of cutting and welding + gel pad on pillion seat) and et voila 2-up tourer. convertible back to mono in 15 minutes. I am keeping mine :)

If not for homologation requirements I'd have built myself one like that but with front brakes and better seat and will be learning taking corners flattrack style :)

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I like that bike, thats a mean looking thing.
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Post by tony.wilde1 »

thats a serious speedway machine!!! 8O

and no front brake!!!eeeeeeeeek! 8O
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tony.wilde1 wrote:thats a serious speedway machine!!! 8O

and no front brake!!!eeeeeeeeek! 8O
On a VTR speedway bike you only need a front brake if you've fitted a slipper clutch :lol: :lol: :lol:
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