urgent help needed electrical
urgent help needed electrical
out for a spin today after 5 mins bike died,no power at all ,thought i might have flicked kill switch by accident ,tured key on off nothing ,checked fuses all ok ,,looked under side panel (left )where the positive from the battery goes annd found the fuse blown,,had a biker look at it we put a new fuse in with ignition off but the minute we fitted the cap-plug back on it just bluw ,,so was told its on the positive side of things from battery to starter ,ie rubbing wire ect ,cant find anything ,even had the tank up but nothing ,,any clues to where it mighgt be shortening out ,is there a common fault with this make mick 07983976929
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sorry about that ,behind the left hand panel there is a a unit with a green top section were the red positive to the battery comes from,when you remove the top there is a 30 amp green fuse along side a 6 pin female ,when you fit the fuse all is ok but as soon as you fit the green top piece back on which also has the 6 piece male it blows ,,,,in other way as soon as you conect the male and female back togeather with new fuse it blows ,,sorry hard to explain
Ah right Mick I'm with you now 
The fuse you are referring to is on top of the starter relay (solenoid)
The only suggestion I can think of at the moment that is a fairly common failure on the Storm is the voltage rectifier, which is located on the opposite side of the seat sub-frame to the starter solenoid. My way of thinking is that it has failed and is causing a dead short to earth Have a look at it, sometimes when they fail they leave a burn mark and or melt part of the flat black surface area of the rectifier itself that is definitely visible when just looking at it If nothing is visible there remove the block terminal connector and examine the terminals and wire connections to see if they are all good
This link supplied by Beast may be of help to you
http://vtr1000f.wickidnet.com/
Good luck with it,
Chris.
The fuse you are referring to is on top of the starter relay (solenoid)
The only suggestion I can think of at the moment that is a fairly common failure on the Storm is the voltage rectifier, which is located on the opposite side of the seat sub-frame to the starter solenoid. My way of thinking is that it has failed and is causing a dead short to earth
Have a look at it, sometimes when they fail they leave a burn mark and or melt part of the flat black surface area of the rectifier itself that is definitely visible when just looking at it If nothing is visible there remove the block terminal connector and examine the terminals and wire connections to see if they are all good This link supplied by Beast may be of help to you
http://vtr1000f.wickidnet.com/
Good luck with it,
Chris.
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cheers chris,had a look ,the rec -reg looked ok ,but the clear plastic plug that fits onto it from the loom has 1 of the 6 females burnt (one of the wires is burnt where it connects male to female withen plastic block), what do u recon replace rec-reg or trace conector block back to fitting and change that ,,dont surpose it makes a difference but with rec-reg unpluged fuse dosent blow mick 07983976929 ,once again thanks for your help
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update chris ,in the back of my mind i knew i had an old gt550 rec -rec lying around ,dug it out after a little modification fitted it and fuse dident pop so i turned bike on ,power was back but when i fired her up fuse went again ,but i know now thats where problem is ,id imagine the 550 one is not powerfull enough,,just to check fitted another fuse and turned on again and had power so i have ordered a rec-reg from a guy on ebay ,i owe you a very large drink ( ps know anyone that wants 50 blown fuses )
Give this a whirl. It's my good deed for the day.
http://www.vtr1000.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8831
http://www.vtr1000.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8831
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Mick,mick wrote:cheers chris,had a look ,the rec -reg looked ok ,but the clear plastic plug that fits onto it from the loom has 1 of the 6 females burnt (one of the wires is burnt where it connects male to female withen plastic block), what do u recon replace rec-reg or trace conector block back to fitting and change that ,,dont surpose it makes a difference but with rec-reg unpluged fuse dosent blow mick 07983976929 ,once again thanks for your help
Glad too hear you seem to be making progress in resolving the problem.
That's a good link Cupasoop posted
There is also details of testing the electrical system including the alternator etc in the Haynes manual, using a multi-meter You really do need to carry out that test on the alternator etc imo just incase that's shorted out, before fitting a new rectifier As for the burnt wire, you probably can bare back the burnt wire to a good bit and fit a new spade terminal of similar size, that should be fine. With the rectifier unpluged I guess no power would be getting to the fuse that had been blowing, so it wouldn't blow Chris.