Hi Guys,
I remember seeing a little while ago, someone had a very nifty expandable top box. It was sort of a subtitute for the plastic pillion cover. Anybody remember it?
Mike
Top Box Thingy
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RedStormV
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Hi Mike,
Not seen owt on here, but I think you might be referring to the:
Fastbag or Speedpack
Think it's distributed under the Givi name in UK.
I bought one a few years ago from fleabay & used it to good effect last year on trip to IOM. I don't really like travelling with a ruck sack on so bought this instead. I ended up though with tank bag, Fastbag, and a rucksack, cos I was carrying wor lasses gear as well!
They're more secure and watherproof than just a bag, the fastenings are locked away inside, but could be stolen by someone who just cut the straps. They'd have to wreck and replace the lock though and of course replace the straps if they wanted to use it themselves.
They may not be ideal for all bikes, the one I bought was from a guy who'd used it on a Storm so I knew I was pretty safe. Would be no good for anything with a hump already.
I would also say that any luggage rack and / or full width grab rail would probably have to be removed. As Storms don't have grabrails as standard, then should not be a problem.
When fitted, they make your bike look like a 'Busa' on steroids! Especially if bottom section is also full.
Also, the one I bought must have been an older model as the newer ones come with additional straps to turn it into a 'back pack' (Turn you into a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle more like!).
These would be OK as long as you weren't carrying anything too heavy I would imagine.
Packing them is interesting as the expandable bottom section is separated from the hard shell hump by two large overlapping velcro covered flaps. The 'hump' is the tricky bit because there's no 'structure' it fits over for you to fill with clothes etc. It is merely a lid which fits over a hard lip or rim above the expandable bit. You therefore have to pile things up in approximate shape of hump and then close it down to see if what you've got there will stuff in.
I put the tent (minus poles) in a stuffsac (compression bag) in this bit, along with some jeans, t-shirts etc and a few pairs of socks around the edges.
I suppose, with hindsight, the best way to pack it would be to fill the bottom section and close the flaps, invert the hard shell or hump section and fill it with whatever you wanted to carry, then fit the bottom section onto it, once closed and locked, turn the lot the right way up.
Going to the Manx GP at end of August so I'll try that way then - might get more in!
If you want I'll take some photies and post them, or if you search on Google you'll find a few pics but mostly of them closed and on bikes.
They come in lots of colours - mine's a Carbon Fibre lookelikee.
They come up on Fleabay from time to time too, judging by the search results I just got from Google.
HTH
Graeme
Not seen owt on here, but I think you might be referring to the:
Fastbag or Speedpack
Think it's distributed under the Givi name in UK.
I bought one a few years ago from fleabay & used it to good effect last year on trip to IOM. I don't really like travelling with a ruck sack on so bought this instead. I ended up though with tank bag, Fastbag, and a rucksack, cos I was carrying wor lasses gear as well!
They're more secure and watherproof than just a bag, the fastenings are locked away inside, but could be stolen by someone who just cut the straps. They'd have to wreck and replace the lock though and of course replace the straps if they wanted to use it themselves.
They may not be ideal for all bikes, the one I bought was from a guy who'd used it on a Storm so I knew I was pretty safe. Would be no good for anything with a hump already.
I would also say that any luggage rack and / or full width grab rail would probably have to be removed. As Storms don't have grabrails as standard, then should not be a problem.
When fitted, they make your bike look like a 'Busa' on steroids! Especially if bottom section is also full.
Also, the one I bought must have been an older model as the newer ones come with additional straps to turn it into a 'back pack' (Turn you into a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle more like!).
These would be OK as long as you weren't carrying anything too heavy I would imagine.
Packing them is interesting as the expandable bottom section is separated from the hard shell hump by two large overlapping velcro covered flaps. The 'hump' is the tricky bit because there's no 'structure' it fits over for you to fill with clothes etc. It is merely a lid which fits over a hard lip or rim above the expandable bit. You therefore have to pile things up in approximate shape of hump and then close it down to see if what you've got there will stuff in.
I put the tent (minus poles) in a stuffsac (compression bag) in this bit, along with some jeans, t-shirts etc and a few pairs of socks around the edges.
I suppose, with hindsight, the best way to pack it would be to fill the bottom section and close the flaps, invert the hard shell or hump section and fill it with whatever you wanted to carry, then fit the bottom section onto it, once closed and locked, turn the lot the right way up.
Going to the Manx GP at end of August so I'll try that way then - might get more in!
If you want I'll take some photies and post them, or if you search on Google you'll find a few pics but mostly of them closed and on bikes.
They come in lots of colours - mine's a Carbon Fibre lookelikee.
They come up on Fleabay from time to time too, judging by the search results I just got from Google.
HTH
Graeme
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OY. 
The 'LSM' stands for Lotus Seven Man (not Lidls SalesMan!!!).
The FastBag.
http://www.fastbag.com/english/om_oss_e.html
Just done a tour of the West Country with bike as seen here (and TomTom 500 SatNav hidden in the clear section of the Oxford tank bag hence the wire going down to a 12volt socket I fitted to the lhs frame section from the battery!). I fitted the Honda FireStorm black decals that were purchased from eBay.
This second picture taken by my ex chief engineer with his wife Pauline holding my wet weather kit I'd just removed!!!
This pic shows the black fablon (or sticky back plastic in old Blue Peter jargon!) that I used to break up the mass of yellow like a mock seat pad.
This pic shows the velcro internal flaps.
The FastBag is just such a brilliant device! If packed well you can get loads of clothes and stuff in that lower expanding section which then has the large velcro flaps to hold it all secure with in my case the wet weather gear in the top section.
As to the weight, it doesn't weigh as much as a pillion passenger when loaded but sits where a pillion would do, so doesn't unbalance the bike as a loaded rack/topbox would where that hangs out over the back.
EBay has them cheap sometimes. My colour coded one was 35ukp.
Here:-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fastbag-motorcycl ... dZViewItem
Or very recently
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Givi-Fastbag-tail ... dZViewItem
The 'LSM' stands for Lotus Seven Man (not Lidls SalesMan!!!).
The FastBag.
http://www.fastbag.com/english/om_oss_e.html
Just done a tour of the West Country with bike as seen here (and TomTom 500 SatNav hidden in the clear section of the Oxford tank bag hence the wire going down to a 12volt socket I fitted to the lhs frame section from the battery!). I fitted the Honda FireStorm black decals that were purchased from eBay.
This second picture taken by my ex chief engineer with his wife Pauline holding my wet weather kit I'd just removed!!!
This pic shows the black fablon (or sticky back plastic in old Blue Peter jargon!) that I used to break up the mass of yellow like a mock seat pad.
This pic shows the velcro internal flaps.
The FastBag is just such a brilliant device! If packed well you can get loads of clothes and stuff in that lower expanding section which then has the large velcro flaps to hold it all secure with in my case the wet weather gear in the top section.
As to the weight, it doesn't weigh as much as a pillion passenger when loaded but sits where a pillion would do, so doesn't unbalance the bike as a loaded rack/topbox would where that hangs out over the back.
EBay has them cheap sometimes. My colour coded one was 35ukp.
Here:-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fastbag-motorcycl ... dZViewItem
Or very recently
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Givi-Fastbag-tail ... dZViewItem
"Only ride as fast as your guardian angel can fly" !!!
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If you can manage to drag your eyes past the alcohol-guzzling, rather hot-looking fella in the foreground to the bike on the left, you'll see a very good alternative from MotoDry that simply straps to the pillion seat. No rack, nothing, so when the bag's not needed, the bike still looks as God intended. Built-in little rain-coat that takes up almost no room.
And if it can hold enough gear to keep a chick happy for a few weeks, you shouldn't have any problems carrying whatever you desire. Between that & the tank-bag, there's 67 litres of space (think the pillion seat bag is 36L).
And if it can hold enough gear to keep a chick happy for a few weeks, you shouldn't have any problems carrying whatever you desire. Between that & the tank-bag, there's 67 litres of space (think the pillion seat bag is 36L).
If you ate yourself would you become twice as big or simply disappear?
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Well I much prefer it to 'throw over' bags. Tried those. Not so dry and Hein Gericke have a set hanging on the wall in Maidstone with two perfect carbon can indentation 'tunnels' melted into 'em from high level cans!!!!
Good job we are all different. I mean someone has to like bikes in teal, red, black etc ha ha (head down due incoming
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Good job we are all different. I mean someone has to like bikes in teal, red, black etc ha ha (head down due incoming
)"Only ride as fast as your guardian angel can fly" !!!
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... INCOMING!!!!................
You Colonials and your quaint ways & strange 'languages', I assume you mean vomit (Emesis) as opposed to the jolly Gaelic game those Irish chaps like to partake of on a weekend after Mass!
{Hurling (in Irish, iománaÃocht or iomáint) is an outdoor team sport of ancient Celtic origin, administered by the Gaelic Athletic Association, and played with sticks and a ball.The earliest known recorded game of hurling is from times before the Common Era. The game, played primarily in Ireland, is arguably the world's fastest field team sport in terms of game play. One of Ireland's native Gaelic Games, it shares a number of features with Gaelic football, such as the field and goals, number of players, and much terminology. There is a similar game for women called camogie.
The object of the game is for players to use a wooden axe-shaped stick called a hurl (in Irish a "camán", pronounced kam-awn), or a hurley, to hit a small ball between the opponents' goalposts either over the crossbar for one point, or under the crossbar into a net guarded by a goalkeeper for three points.
The ball can be caught in the hand and carried for not more than four steps, struck in the air, or struck on the ground with the stick. It can be kicked or slapped with an open hand (the hand pass) for short-range passing. A player who wants to carry the ball for more than three steps has to bounce or balance the ball on the end of the stick, and the ball can only be handled twice while in his possession.
Side to side shouldering is allowed although body-checking or shoulder-charging is illegal. No protective padding is worn by players, and although a plastic protective helmet with faceguard is recommended, this is not mandatory for players over 21.}
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for this thread Dammit 
I'll get me coat.
All that yellow in one place (posting) is making you want to 'hurl' lady - LOLVTRgirl wrote:I think you should all stop this nonsense talk about Storm abuse. It makes me wanna hurl.
You Colonials and your quaint ways & strange 'languages', I assume you mean vomit (Emesis) as opposed to the jolly Gaelic game those Irish chaps like to partake of on a weekend after Mass!
{Hurling (in Irish, iománaÃocht or iomáint) is an outdoor team sport of ancient Celtic origin, administered by the Gaelic Athletic Association, and played with sticks and a ball.The earliest known recorded game of hurling is from times before the Common Era. The game, played primarily in Ireland, is arguably the world's fastest field team sport in terms of game play. One of Ireland's native Gaelic Games, it shares a number of features with Gaelic football, such as the field and goals, number of players, and much terminology. There is a similar game for women called camogie.
The object of the game is for players to use a wooden axe-shaped stick called a hurl (in Irish a "camán", pronounced kam-awn), or a hurley, to hit a small ball between the opponents' goalposts either over the crossbar for one point, or under the crossbar into a net guarded by a goalkeeper for three points.
The ball can be caught in the hand and carried for not more than four steps, struck in the air, or struck on the ground with the stick. It can be kicked or slapped with an open hand (the hand pass) for short-range passing. A player who wants to carry the ball for more than three steps has to bounce or balance the ball on the end of the stick, and the ball can only be handled twice while in his possession.
Side to side shouldering is allowed although body-checking or shoulder-charging is illegal. No protective padding is worn by players, and although a plastic protective helmet with faceguard is recommended, this is not mandatory for players over 21.}
Need
for this thread Dammit I'll get me coat.
Excellent post LSM
Hurling.....now there's a game for real men. None of that rolling round on the ground that you see in football after some overpaid tw@ gets tapped or pushed by another overpaid tw@.
Thing of a field, with a bunch of mad Irishmen with sticks in their hands chasing after a ball (much like a cricket ball wrapped in leather). Remember it is perfectly ok to stick your hurley between the arm and the ribs of the guy in front (who is running like the clappers bouncing the ball on the end of his hurley) and give it a good rattle against his ribs.
See here and here for some real skill. Don't forget that these guys are all amateurs as well......they go back to a real job each Monday...
Hurling.....now there's a game for real men. None of that rolling round on the ground that you see in football after some overpaid tw@ gets tapped or pushed by another overpaid tw@.
Thing of a field, with a bunch of mad Irishmen with sticks in their hands chasing after a ball (much like a cricket ball wrapped in leather). Remember it is perfectly ok to stick your hurley between the arm and the ribs of the guy in front (who is running like the clappers bouncing the ball on the end of his hurley) and give it a good rattle against his ribs.
See here and here for some real skill. Don't forget that these guys are all amateurs as well......they go back to a real job each Monday...
Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem
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Hurling, as in the ancient Australian sport played from 2am Saturday & Sunday mornings, usually in central city districts and small country towns. Oddly, celebrations are usually held before the event as a lead-up to the climactic sport itself.
I am unsure as to how the "winner" is determined. Sometimes it appears to be the last man standing, sometimes first man down. Occasionally, photographic evidence is used and the winner is crowned the next day (often during the prelude to the following game).
I am unsure as to how the "winner" is determined. Sometimes it appears to be the last man standing, sometimes first man down. Occasionally, photographic evidence is used and the winner is crowned the next day (often during the prelude to the following game).
If you ate yourself would you become twice as big or simply disappear?