vtr engine tuning

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smf_12
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vtr engine tuning

Post by smf_12 »

hi people.

I just want to know what tuning parts are available for the vtr's ( not sill citroen saxo's :lol: )

i know you can get big bore kits that raise compression.
and i am planning on getting a custom exhaust made.

but what else can be changed / upgraded?

CCT?
Cranks?
Gearbox Parts?
Ignition Advancer?
ect, ect...

Thanks :D
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Post by Kitch »

Moriwaki raced them but the parts can be hard to come by.

The Moriwaki or Rumi race bikes put out 140 rwbhp+ but thats some serious money.

The best advice I can give regards tuning woul dbe to talk to Roger at Revolution Racing - he's tuned loads of Storms, can get Moriwaki race parts and knows his stuff.

http://www.revolutionuk.co.uk/
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+1 Rogers the man
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Post by smf_12 »

sweet ill have a word with them at some stage :D
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Post by gilson »

I emailed Rodger, nice chap. Said, pretty much, although I can't remember all the details: Blueprint engine (basically means smoothing out all the internals), Moriwaki cams and a dyno run (or two). Must have a full race exhaust system, will push out near 150BHP and cost 1500GBP.

I don't have the cash to do that, but it's not bad considering what you could buy for that money. Say my track bike is worth 1500GBP, what V-Twin (would have to be a v-twin) could I get for 3K? A RSV, 999, SP-1? But do they make 150? More like 130...Alternatively you could buy an R1 etc, making 160bhp, but then a completely diffent bike.

It's not bad value really....

Mind you there was a Firestorm on ebay that had the above modification. I think it was a buy it now for 2K if I remember... so you won't get your money back on the modification, probably.

Don't have the email sorry.

Ultimately though, I can't ride it to it's maximum now, so adding another 40bhp would be wasted, or make me "cheat", i.e. relying on power rather than corner speed.
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Post by gilson »

Aha! The email from Roger...

Dear Martin,
Thank you for your enquiry.
If your bike has a standard exhaust or severely baffled end cans (eg
Quill T3) attached to standard header pipes there is only a SMALL genuine
BHP power gain despite the maker's claims both of Dynojet kits and the
exhaust. However there will be an improvement in throttle response and fuel
economy.
The standard UK bike is generally 102 bhp and if you fit a dynojet kit
and K&N filter with FREE FLOW exhaust cans (not road legal) you can expect
106bhp - 108bhp) The cost of supplying and installing the Dynojet kit and
K&N filter is £235.00
If you wished to go further then the installation of Moriwaki ST1
camshafts into "gas flowed and ported" cylinder heads generally produces
116bhp - 118bhp PROVIDED that a FULL aftermarket exhaust is used (eg
Ackropovic, Yoshimura etc, etc) the cost of this engine tune is £1485.00
PLUS the cost of the exhaust system selected. Used exhaust systems appear on
Ebay on a regular basis."
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Post by gilson »

I got the power output wrong... my email above now doesn't make sense... 1500GBP for a 18bhp increase, now doesn't seem like a worthwhile opportunity... mind you, a full exhaust and K&N seems OK value....

Like all tuning, expensive per BHP.
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Post by Hankie »

If it were me, and it's not already been done, I'd spend some money on a decent rear shock and get the forks done. More benefit than increasing the engine output.

Chris
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Post by smf_12 »

Hankie wrote:If it were me, and it's not already been done, I'd spend some money on a decent rear shock and get the forks done. More benefit than increasing the engine output.

Chris
will have ohlins all round fully set up ect when the bike gets built :wink:
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Post by smf_12 »

gilson - The email is interesting. expensive yet interesting. I may just do it tho :lol:
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Post by Beamish »

But isnt the email quoting 118BHP at the rear wheel? That would mean a decent improvement over OE. Not sure about the logic though when a mille or SP could be a bargain winter buy.
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Post by col73 »

well mines looking like this and i have to say it goes really really well
1997 ON A P PLATE.

ENGINE:

MORIWAKI PISTONS
MORIWAKI CAMS
MODIFIED CARBS
MODIFIED CCT'S (THEY WORK)
MODIFIED AIRBOX
STAN STEPHENS PORTED AND FLOWED HEADS
SEBRING EXTERNAL OIL COOLER WITH GOODRIDGE BRAIDED LINES
CLOSE RATIO 1ST AND 2ND GEARS
PROGRAMMABLE RACE IGNITION VIA LAP TOP (SOFTWARE INCLUDED)

OTHER STUFF:

PENSKE REAR SHOCK ROAD/RACE
HARRIS REAR SETS
HARRIS CARBON HUGGER
CARBON FRONT GUARD
BRAIDED FRONT HOSES
HEL RED REAR BRAKE LINE.
WAVY REAR DISC
ABM BAR RISER
RENTHAL BARS AND GRIPS
CARBON ENGINE COVERS
ONE OFF CHROMED MUSHROOMS
SPA GAUGES MOUNTED IN ONE OFF ANODISED HOUSINGS (VERY TRICK)
MICRON RED CARBON CANS (CONVENTIONAL MOUNT)
REAR WHEEL HAS POLISHED RIMS.
GOODRIDGE ALLOY CRANKCASE BREATHER.
"FIRESTORM" RAD GUARDS
MAGNOM OIL FILTER
"BAT EARS" UNDERTRAY
ALLOY CAPS ON RESEVOIRS
ALLOY REMOTE ADJUSTERS ON FORKS
FRONT AND REAR TYRES ARE GOOD FOR A LOT OF MILES, SHOWING NO REAL WEAR AT ALL.


ALL THE WORK WAS DONE BY DEL MEEKCOMES. THERE ARE THOSE WHO KNOW HIM ON THIS SITE AND YOU ARE WELCOME TO CHECK HIS CREDENTIALS WITH THEM. I HAVE NO PROOF OF THE INTERNALS ON THE ENGINE, BUT IT CAN BE CONFIRMED WITH DEL. ONCE YOU'VE RIDDEN IT YOU'LL KNOW THAT IT HAS ALL OF THE ABOVE, BELIEVE ME!
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Post by sirch345 »

ONCE YOU'VE RIDDEN IT YOU'LL KNOW THAT IT HAS ALL OF THE ABOVE
Does that mean we're all going to get a test ride then :?: :lol: :lol: :lol: Very generous of you :wink:
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:lol: It's OK no need to panic, I realise that was the wording from the seller you bought the bike from :!: :wink:

Chris.

PS. Yes I remember the bike well after Del did all that work on it, very impressive :!: (Del and myself came up with the same idea for the CCT mod) Iirc it was owned by a one of our members called Robin.
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Post by Beamish »

No fork mods! Quite suprised after all the impressive other mods.
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Post by tony.mon »

Don't need them if the front wheel's never on the ground :D
It's not falling off, it's an upgrade opportunity.
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