Cop crack down BH wkend in Cumbria/lakes!

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Re: Cop crack down BH wkend in Cumbria/lakes!

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http://www.cumbriacrack.com/2013/05/01/ ... ay-bikers/
Cumbria Police in partnership with Cumbria Safety Cameras will be out and about over the upcoming Bank Holiday weekend checking that motorbikes are legal and safe to be on our county’s roads.

Police recognise that many bikers can flock to the region over the May Day weekend to enjoy the winding roads and stunning views on offer around the region.

Cumbria Road Policing Unit will be making sure that motorcyclists are riding within the speed limits, on bikes that are legal and safe to be on the roads.

They will be stopping motorcyclists who are suspected of committing offences and inspecting the motorbike using specialist vehicle examiners.

Motorcycles found with defects that are likely to be a danger on the roads will be served with prohibition notices.

These will prevent the motorcycle from being ridden with immediate effect until the defect is fixed.

Sergeant Claire Sampson, from the Cumbria Roads Policing Unit, said: “We will be targeting motorcycles which are being ridden in an anti-social way, which can be disturbing for the local community.

“We are also focusing on any motorbike which appears to have been altered to make them go faster, which is illegal and those motorbikes which appear to be dangerous on the road.

“Our aim is to ensure the safety of the rider and other roads users. Riding a motorcycle which is unsafe is highly dangerous and can lead to serious or life threatening injuries.

“There are a minority of motorcyclists who believe that they are able to manage higher speed bikes and get their motorbike altered illegally to make it go faster.

This is dangerous because they are riding a bike which is above their capability and can lead to loss of control and result in a serious collision which could cost them their life.

“We welcome bikers to the area to enjoy all we have to offer, and our aim is not to spoil anyone’s day, but to make sure that everyone gets to enjoy what Cumbria has to offer and above all bikers get home safely.”
I wasn't aware it was illegal to modify the bike to make it faster / quicker so long as my insurance company was aware of what i was doing and it passed and MOT and didn't have a can saying Race use only etc
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Re: Cop crack down BH wkend in Cumbria/lakes!

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I wasn't aware it was illegal to modify the bike to make it faster / quicker so long as my insurance company was aware of what i was doing and it passed and MOT and didn't have a can saying Race use only etc
It's not yet, but this is one of the things that the new EU regs are trying to introduce other here along with stricter emissions tests, not being allowed to work on you own vehicle etc. What they are doing here is a form of brainwashing. A way of convincing the public that it is the norm or is allright and a way of making reasons for it to be for the better.

Note we are also being brainwashed into going to war with Syria. You watch, give it a year or two after we get more media reports of crap happening other there. I suppose it could be called propaganda. By then we will be brainwashed into having reasons for invading them.

You watch the next report will be something along the lines of....by pulling over all these bikers we have now also arrested so many bikers for possession of bla bla bla. Same as the stop and search for vehicles. Make up a bullshit reason to stop you like a light not working and threes' their reason to stop and hassle people. As standard procedure they will search you for their (so called) own safety, then if they are lucky they find some drugs or something. In other words it's a lazy way for them to catch (for want of a better word) criminals. Not only that but it is a revenue maker by handing out fines/penalty charges for this that and the other.

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Be careful with that. If they have stopped you for an offence they have evidence of already for instance the undersize plate, then that legislation won't work Seb. If it is a speculative stop to obtain evidence by examination ie looking for problems on the bike, then give it a run if you fancy it.
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Nope, it clearly statrs that a minor fault is not a reason to inspect a vehicle, ie cans, plate etc. You still have theright to insist on a deferred inspection.
And if they dont agree, or dont turn up when told to, you can prosecute them under the same act :)

Read the link

You can be confident that your average bobby will not be aware of the full extent of the road traffic act and will only know what theyve been briefed.

I will personally be memorising it word for word lol
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I think the problem is that it's a grey area unless it's specific in what is considered to be minor. The problem then is that once you start arguing the toss with them, they see it as your trying to hide something so then give you even more grief. It's wrong I know and it could even be considered harassment. But that's the way they work. :( one has to know all the laws, rules and regs inside out to stop them taking the piss and possibly incriminating oneself by allowing them to do something they are not doing by book.

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am i under arrest?

if yes - under what act am i being detained.... make them state the law and reason for detaining you.
insist on getting a ticket (producer) - insist they write the reason for the pull on the ticket, including the paragraph & section of whatever act they state.

if no. - lid back on, away you go. crouton em.

if it's 'no, we just want to inspect your bike for defects' - then it's time to pull the piece of paper out.
the more people who do this the better - do not let them treat you like sh1t.

you dont have to be arsy about it or show a bad attitude - you can still be polite when being assertive, and there is nothing in the bill of rights that says you have to be a wimp when confronted by a copper.
they may not like it but that's fine - i don't like being detained when i'm doing nothing wrong.
as long as youre not being aggressive or abusive there's nothing they can do.
at the end of the day they are public servants - i am a member of the public so i am their master. :Ball Kick:

plod are not lawyers. lets face it, if you had any brains would you be doing their job for what they get paid?
poles get paid more for putting lids on pies. :lol:

the only thing questionable on my bike is the unbaffled cans - so tbh i may pop a set in for the weekend just so they have absolutely no reason to pull me over and i can tie them in knots with their own laws.
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this is all very interesting. benny, do you know anyone who has done it and what happened ?
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lolz lets see how it goes this weekend :D

it's well publicised on MAG for years now. know your rights innit :D
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Also, it should be "there is a minority" not "are" as it refers to "the minority" which is singular. "There are motorcyclists..." would be correct.

So, the police want to victimise bikers, don't know the law re modifying bikes and are also semi-illiterate. Brilliant. Beam me up Scotty.
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Hi guys saw this vid on fb the other week about this sort of thing. Tbh the guy comes across as a bit of a juggler but credit where its due he knows his sh1t n the bill have to let him go type this into youtube and have a watch
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