The longer you spend thinking about it the more likely it is that you will have to change the thread to "which cct will I fit on my rebuilt engine?".
Anything is better than nothing.
which cct?
Re: which cct?
It's not falling off, it's an upgrade opportunity.
Re: which cct?
I don't even have manualschric wrote:
did you follow that virt or get some one else to do it
like me
Nope. I'd love to say Microsoft, but then they'd actually have an excuse for being crap. Same for Apple tooBigVeeGrin wrote:
Virt - can you let us know what companies you code for and we'll be sure to avoi....
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dansrockin
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Re: which cct?
thanks all, i think im going to brave it and have a go at the manual route!! ive never done anything to do with timing on an engine before, and im the sort of person that if it can go wrong, it will! so keep an eye out for lots of posts requesting help removing bolts that have fallen inside the engine or camshaft repositioning in the future!!
which would be the best manual tensioner to go for? ive contacted bazza, but he hasnt got any at the min, so am i best waiting for his, or going for one of the other makes? pros and cons of different types?
cheers
dan
which would be the best manual tensioner to go for? ive contacted bazza, but he hasnt got any at the min, so am i best waiting for his, or going for one of the other makes? pros and cons of different types?
cheers
dan
Re: which cct?
Please read for your choices on alternative manual CCTs
http://www.vtr1000.org/phpBB3/viewtopic ... 34#p310812
http://www.vtr1000.org/phpBB3/viewtopic ... 34#p310812
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dansrockin
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Re: which cct?
Cheers, so would I be right in thinking it looks like bazzas ones are the easiest to use being a bit longer, but krieger/rideronastorm ones look a bit nicer?
Is that the only difference?
Is that the only difference?
Re: which cct?
If you get it all set up correctly first then you won't have to adjust the timing at all.dansrockin wrote:thanks all, i think im going to brave it and have a go at the manual route!! ive never done anything to do with timing on an engine before, and im the sort of person that if it can go wrong, it will! so keep an eye out for lots of posts requesting help removing bolts that have fallen inside the engine or camshaft repositioning in the future!!
which would be the best manual tensioner to go for? ive contacted bazza, but he hasnt got any at the min, so am i best waiting for his, or going for one of the other makes? pros and cons of different types?
cheers
dan
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All good advice accept Virts off-course If manuals are fitted correctly and your don't forget or are froogle with the thread sealant you will be fine. And don't try to adjust them with the engine running. I'm not saying you can't but unless you know what your doing and are confident this is one area where there is a risk of the thread unwinding itself if let go of.
I don't bother with the paper gasket...saves cleaning the old one up. Just put a fairly large ring of gasket sealant around the tensioner where it bolts onto the head. What squiges out when tightened up wipe it off. If it squiges out a bit then you know you have used more than enough and will have a god seal.
More importantly don't forget to put some sealant (gasket sealant again is good) around the threaded part of the tensioner. I usually unwind the tensioner to the max before bolting to the head. Put another ring of sealant around the base of the thread so as you tighten it down the sealant around the thread gets inside the orifice that the thread goes through. Just before locking off the locknut I put another tad of sealant directly under the nut. Yet again what squiges out just wipe off so it all looks clean and a good job done. When locking off the locknut use two spanners. One on the end nut and one on the locknut and get it nice and tight without affecting the tension on the chain you have previously set if following my guide.
As for manuals or Stopper either is good. DO NOT stick with the non stoppered Honda ones. Well... not unless you like a gamble and can afford to replace them with new ones at service intervals.
Stopper or manuals is good. The only difference being that you still have the risk of a failure (non damage failure) with the stopper mod done. It wont leave you stranded and you should be able to nurse the bike home, but they will need replacing and the stopper done again.
If having problems purchasing manuals soon enough then do the Stopper.
Don't worry about the timing it's no biggie.....sounds worse than what it is and if your unsure of something just ask and we can help. In fact the worst part of the timing is getting the centre cap off
A big +1 on the cam cover bolts. Just nip them up DO NOT OVERTIGHTEN. It's more important that you have the washer seals on them and the right way up. Also that the cam cover gasket sits correctly in the grooves. You might want to use a little gasket seal to help the gasket sit correctly when seating the cam covers especially on the front cylinder where it hangs down and around the U shape where the plug goes.
What's your location Dan?
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If manuals are fitted correctly and your don't forget or are froogle with the thread sealant you will be fine. And don't try to adjust them with the engine running. I'm not saying you can't but unless you know what your doing and are confident this is one area where there is a risk of the thread unwinding itself if let go of.I don't bother with the paper gasket...saves cleaning the old one up. Just put a fairly large ring of gasket sealant around the tensioner where it bolts onto the head. What squiges out when tightened up wipe it off. If it squiges out a bit then you know you have used more than enough and will have a god seal.
More importantly don't forget to put some sealant (gasket sealant again is good) around the threaded part of the tensioner. I usually unwind the tensioner to the max before bolting to the head. Put another ring of sealant around the base of the thread so as you tighten it down the sealant around the thread gets inside the orifice that the thread goes through. Just before locking off the locknut I put another tad of sealant directly under the nut. Yet again what squiges out just wipe off so it all looks clean and a good job done. When locking off the locknut use two spanners. One on the end nut and one on the locknut and get it nice and tight without affecting the tension on the chain you have previously set if following my guide.
As for manuals or Stopper either is good. DO NOT stick with the non stoppered Honda ones. Well... not unless you like a gamble and can afford to replace them with new ones at service intervals.
Stopper or manuals is good. The only difference being that you still have the risk of a failure (non damage failure) with the stopper mod done. It wont leave you stranded and you should be able to nurse the bike home, but they will need replacing and the stopper done again.
If having problems purchasing manuals soon enough then do the Stopper.
Don't worry about the timing it's no biggie.....sounds worse than what it is and if your unsure of something just ask and we can help. In fact the worst part of the timing is getting the centre cap off
A big +1 on the cam cover bolts. Just nip them up DO NOT OVERTIGHTEN. It's more important that you have the washer seals on them and the right way up. Also that the cam cover gasket sits correctly in the grooves. You might want to use a little gasket seal to help the gasket sit correctly when seating the cam covers especially on the front cylinder where it hangs down and around the U shape where the plug goes.
What's your location Dan?
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dansrockin
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Re: which cct?
Thanks for that! I'll make sure I have a good read through the guide a few times first!
I'm in banbury, Oxfordshire.
Cheers
Dan
I'm in banbury, Oxfordshire.
Cheers
Dan
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If you stick it in your profile under your avatar. User Control Panel/Profile/Edit Profile/Location, when it comes to threads like this you may get someone local kind enough to other help if you run into problems.'m in banbury, Oxfordshire
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lloydie
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Re: which cct?
I'm only up the A423 just in Coventry so if you want a hand pop round :-)dansrockin wrote:thanks all, i think im going to brave it and have a go at the manual route!! ive never done anything to do with timing on an engine before, and im the sort of person that if it can go wrong, it will! so keep an eye out for lots of posts requesting help removing bolts that have fallen inside the engine or camshaft repositioning in the future!!
which would be the best manual tensioner to go for? ive contacted bazza, but he hasnt got any at the min, so am i best waiting for his, or going for one of the other makes? pros and cons of different types?
cheers
dan
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dansrockin
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I may well take you up on that lloydie, I work in leamington so it'll be easy to get up to you one day. I'll sort out some tensioners in the new year and give you a shout when they arrive.
Thanks
Dan
Thanks
Dan
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lloydie
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Sounds good just pm me when your ready and I'll make room in the garage :-)dansrockin wrote:I may well take you up on that lloydie, I work in leamington so it'll be easy to get up to you one day. I'll sort out some tensioners in the new year and give you a shout when they arrive.
Thanks
Dan