CCT's done but the rattle is still there; Ideas please?
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CCT's done but the rattle is still there; Ideas please?
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As the title suggests the manual CCT's are in and set to the correct tension but there is still a rattle noise at idle coming from the clutch housing and lower rear cylinder area. I have done a search and most of you said it disapears when the clutch is pulled but mine dosent. When the revs are lifted to about 2000rpm and above its not noticable but it just doesn't sound as i would like it to at lights and in traffic. Should i be worried? Any suggestions please?
Just off to give it an oil change to see if that helps.
As the title suggests the manual CCT's are in and set to the correct tension but there is still a rattle noise at idle coming from the clutch housing and lower rear cylinder area. I have done a search and most of you said it disapears when the clutch is pulled but mine dosent. When the revs are lifted to about 2000rpm and above its not noticable but it just doesn't sound as i would like it to at lights and in traffic. Should i be worried? Any suggestions please?
Just off to give it an oil change to see if that helps.
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Re: CCT's done but the rattle is still there; Ideas please?
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Oil & filter change done, no better.

Oil & filter change done, no better.
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Re: CCT's done but the rattle is still there; Ideas please?
Guessing here..... if it's not the cam chain the only other one there is the oil pump chain.
But the rattle may not be caused by a chain, its hard to say without hearing it.
But the rattle may not be caused by a chain, its hard to say without hearing it.
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Re: CCT's done but the rattle is still there; Ideas please?
Its louder on the clutch side if that helps. Where would the sound be coming from if it was the oil pump chain and can anything easilly be done with it? Just thinking maybe i could have a listen with a screwdriver if i knew the general area.Phil-VTwin wrote:Guessing here..... if it's not the cam chain the only other one there is the oil pump chain.
But the rattle may not be caused by a chain, its hard to say without hearing it.
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Re: CCT's done but the rattle is still there; Ideas please?
Thanks for the reply phil-V-twin. I'm guessing from the lack of replies no one else knows what it could be or can offer me re-assurance?
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Re: CCT's done but the rattle is still there; Ideas please?
If it's still rattles and you are sure the tension is correct, then the chains are stretched too much for the CCT to tension them correctly. Depends on how many miles you've done I suppose....
I'm no expert on the manual CCTs so don't know the correct tension...
I'm no expert on the manual CCTs so don't know the correct tension...
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Re: CCT's done but the rattle is still there; Ideas please?
Any chance you could film / tape it then put it on youtube and post a link to it?
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Re: CCT's done but the rattle is still there; Ideas please?
Never done it before but i will give the you tube thing a go later.
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Re: CCT's done but the rattle is still there; Ideas please?
Its done 25k miles they are not over tensioned as they have been done as directed before. Finger tight until resistance half turn back and lock it off. It all seemed to line up on the timing marks when i fitted the rear one.gilson wrote:If it's still rattles and you are sure the tension is correct, then the chains are stretched too much for the CCT to tension them correctly. Depends on how many miles you've done I suppose....
I'm no expert on the manual CCTs so don't know the correct tension...



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Re: CCT's done but the rattle is still there; Ideas please?
After all the messing you've done with the engine I’d be balancing the carbs first before I started panicking
It could just be a bit of backlash your hearing
It could just be a bit of backlash your hearing

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Re: CCT's done but the rattle is still there; Ideas please?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Om_9uSGVNo
Hope it works ok, not the best quality but it will hopefully give you an idea.
Hope it works ok, not the best quality but it will hopefully give you an idea.
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Re: CCT's done but the rattle is still there; Ideas please?
That clip is a little too distorted to be useful, it sounds like your exhaust is blowing! ;-)
I didn't want to scare you but my mates 600 SRAD had a rattle that dissapeared under load, either when revving or riding it. A new CCT didn't help which suggests the cam is too loose. Hopefully this isn't the case.
Sorry can't help any further....others wil though
I didn't want to scare you but my mates 600 SRAD had a rattle that dissapeared under load, either when revving or riding it. A new CCT didn't help which suggests the cam is too loose. Hopefully this isn't the case.
Sorry can't help any further....others wil though
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Re: CCT's done but the rattle is still there; Ideas please?
Thanks for giving it a listen bud, the exhaust isn't blowing so i can cross that one off the list. I will roll it out of the garage tomorrow and give Youtube another go. would have done it tonight but its pouring with raingilson wrote:That clip is a little too distorted to be useful, it sounds like your exhaust is blowing! ;-)
I didn't want to scare you but my mates 600 SRAD had a rattle that dissapeared under load, either when revving or riding it. A new CCT didn't help which suggests the cam is too loose. Hopefully this isn't the case.
Sorry can't help any further....others wil though

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Re: CCT's done but the rattle is still there; Ideas please?
with warby here, balance carbs first. is noise there with clutch in/out, noticable when ridden? is it a clatter or regular clack, or is it a thunk type knock, is it there on over-run, is it tinny..... just saying very difficult to diagnose but this list can give a pointer. are all timing marks aligned as in the workshop threads?
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Re: CCT's done but the rattle is still there; Ideas please?
Thanks for the reply.stormingjoe wrote:with warby here, balance carbs first. is noise there with clutch in/out, noticable when ridden? is it a clatter or regular clack, or is it a thunk type knock, is it there on over-run, is it tinny..... just saying very difficult to diagnose but this list can give a pointer. are all timing marks aligned as in the workshop threads?
The noise is there regardless of clutch in or out, it is only really noticable at idle. The noise isn't tinny, i would describe it as a clatter and the noise is constant at idle (almost like a tractor but no where near as loud) and its not apparent on overun. I didn't check the front timing marks but the rear cylinder marks lined up ok when i fitted the CCT's.
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