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pariah
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No Probs during Winter Starting Now.

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Well i finally got round to it. Sorted me winter staring problems.
I,ve had to do this due to the fact that I have no easy access to outside electricity.
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Water proff 12v socket monted under the side panel and wireed straight to battery with 10amp in line fuse.
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Sorced a very small booster pack, being small I can carry this in back pack on cold wet winter mornings.
Simply plug this into the scocket switch on booster and hey presto i,ve additional starting power. :thumbup: :thumbup:
Total project cost 35 pounds . :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Nicely done.
Where did the portable jump starter come from?
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Neat job Pariah :thumbup:
Pantaloonie wrote:Nicely done.
Where did the portable jump starter come from?
I was wondering that myself........it looks like it might've been here ...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUTO-JUMPER-12V-C ... 1680wt_939
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Got the socket from e bay, place called Towzatroincs Item number (120432652359) can make it to suit where every you want to place it. I had it shortened to 800 mm . It was 10 pounds delivered.
The booster came from maplins but it looks very similar to the one your looking at.
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Nice lateral thinking solution, and neat instalation.

Paint job on the tank looks interesting, any other photos of the whole bike?
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As purchased.......... :thumbdown:

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After I finished with her. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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I know it wont be to every one taste but hey I like it and she makes people look . :D :D :D
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I like this a lot! :clap: :clap: I've got a track bike which I infrequently use (even though I keep it on charge via a solar panel) I'd still like to help out the battery...

I was thinking of attaching a couple of battery cables and using a car booster from that. but if I were to fall off (more of a when than if actually) the cable might touch the frame = bang!...

I know that a car/VTR needs considerable amps to turn it over, just look at the size of the battery cables to carry the current, your cables are considerably thinner. Can they handle the current?

I wonder how much power that small booster actually delivers? I'm concerned that the parts can't handle the current, but if they can, it could be great for a total loss system too...

I'll ask an expert about this :D .... but I like it a lot!
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Gilly, the other idea I was toying with was to have the socket mounted in the rear bumper bar of my car,then put bike at rear and by means of a double headed male extension just plug into socket on bike plug other end into socket on bumper. The power in the car battery is a lot more powerful so you should be able to use the additional power that way, This way all you will need is the socket and get the extension made up to what ever lenght you want.
Might actually do this myself yet as well
Hope that helps.

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That's another good idea - thanks for sharing this!

The socket is a great idea, far better than mine as it keeps it neat and safe, but I'm concerned that it's not up to the job. I've looked on ebay and it's actually for a GPS or similarly powered 12V device. These draw minimum current so sticking a great lump of electricity through it is a completely different concept.

I'm no expert though (but my dad is), he's on holiday this week, I'll ask him monday.

There's a reason why the battery cables are so fat...I'd be concerned that they'd catch fire...
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No way will those packs start a bike, they are designed to "top up" the battery charge if its low.
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This is what towza stated for my bike. It,s fine for the booster side of things but I doubt it would do a complete system .

The battery sounds quite small at 1.3Ah, If the unit is designed for cars etc which their sockets are normally protected with a suitable fuse (checked the fuse rating on my van - 20A). With the socket rated at 15A (most manufacturers allow for a certain amount of overload) I feel that due to the short period of operation the socket should cope, although I would upgrade the cable to a higher current rating 15A or 25A. Upgrading the fuse holder to a standard blade type with a higher current rating capabilities will allow the fitting of a higher fuse ratting to no greater than 20A.

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pariah wrote:This is what towza stated for my bike. It,s fine for the booster side of things but I doubt it would do a complete system .
Hell, I won't show this to my dad, he'll be causing them significant grief.
Phil-VTwin wrote:No way will those packs start a bike, they are designed to "top up" the battery charge if its low.
I thought that too, hence using a car jumpstart powerpack or from the car itself. But I think the socket idea is really tidy... I've got some short battery cables (Halfords) so I could connect them to that socket....it's inspired me though....maybe I could have a three pin house plug on there! ;-))
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on the current rating of the socket and the battery pack..........Looking at the e-bay link that Bikerpiker put in his reply, these things are to give a 10min battery top up before you try and start, they dont have the charge density or harness resistance to deliver big amperage to do a conventional jump start.

The fact that the battery pack has cigarette socket and normal gauge wires also backs up the fact that it is not a high current supply, so for the way it was designed, the socket, wiring & fuse are all fine to work with the battery pack.

BUT..........Please dont try the Car to bike jump start option with these connectors or wire gauges as it will just melt if the bike battery is flat and all the current is coming from the car.
It will be ok if you are just using the car to trickle charge the bike if you have no mains electricity near the bike.

On the paint job.............I like what you have done, especially with the lower fairing and how it hides the join between the upper an the lower. :thumbup: :thumbup: oh and the colour matched mirrors.

Good work.
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I think this has gone a bit stray. It,s only to be used as an additional aid to the battery in cold weather.

Also , I have actually tried the system and it dont cause any harm to the wiring or the booster itself. The booster end has a glass 5 amp fuse fitted and the cable to the socket has been upgraded so after using it the 5amp fuse is still working fine. I would have thought that if any thing was wrong, the small 5 amp fuse would have blown straight away. Failing that , the 10 amp in line fuse would have blown but thats still working ok.

This was never meant to be used as a total booster for a flat battery or as an alternative. :o
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Gilly you have a pm mate :thumbup:
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