Got some new cans (at last) but i have questions.

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Got some new cans (at last) but i have questions.

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I have just purchased some nice noisy cheap cans and high level link pipes for the Storm the problem is they have some minor damage as they were removed from a bike that was written off. They are Art Titanium with high level link pipes and my question is cans the marks be rubbed out through the grades of emery paper and polished? The reason i ask is i'm unsure as to weather Art cans are just a titanium finish or they are actually titanium. What is involved in polishing titanium?

Some pictures for you. All in all they are not too bad but if i could sort out the scratches it would be a bonus!

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Thanks yet again

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Oh and has anyone got a any hanging brackets for said cans or maybe just a template to make a pair from?
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See if you can get a replacement sleeve and rivet band from somewhere like A16 supplies. They'd be as good as new then.
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if your after a cheap fix, chuck a new band on and spray em satin black 8)
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A new band is all you really need, drill out the rivets and rivet the new band back on. (You could also shove some re-packing material in whilst you have the end cap off). Then get some new stickers (or use the existing ones) and turn them around, that is, left on the right side and right on the left side. The scratches will be there but hidden. Easy! Infact if you do turn them around, you don't even need new banding as I'm guessing the other side is perfect?

I got some banding of ebay Item number: 360197978998 and packing material: Item number: 150364425372
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I did ask the seller about swapping the cans but apparently there is a weld on the other side of the can so it cant be done. I must admit i will probably reverse the strap and just fit them as is. If i wanted to rub out the damage and polish them up can it be done and has anyone managed to do it?
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A few years ago I got a damaged Tri Oval for my 7R - and just chopped the scratched bit off.....

It's an easy job then to drill and re-rivet the end cap back on............

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I can trace my hi level brackets and draw them up in a week or 2 if it helps.....

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Edit: The hi levels on the 'Storm that is - not the 7r!

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cliveyandrews wrote: I can trace my hi level brackets and draw them up in a week or 2 if it helps.....
Not to worry now mate, the guy managed to find all the fittings i need to install them on the bike, the brackets mount on the lower mounting on the pillion pegs where the low levels fix, i have never seen another storm with that type of mounting and i bit unsure how it will work. I managed to sand the scratches out of my Viper can and machine polished it but i'm unsure about the results on a titanium sleve and weather it is possible. The only problem i have now is what to do with the indicators as they will be in the way. The snowplough has been cut so i cant mount them below the pipes. What have you lot done to get around the indicator problem?
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JIMMYJAMES wrote: The snowplough has been cut so i cant mount them below the pipes. What have you lot done to get around the indicator problem?
Mine were mounted in holes redrilled on the mudguard - however - now that I've gone to stibbies from the long blueflames, I have the room to put them on original holes. I have an undertray to fit, at which point I will buy an "Rs-end" bracket and tidy the installation...

Have you considered a tail light with integrated indicators a-la: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-VTR1000-FIR ... 518de69815...
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Well a quick update for you: They arrived yesterday by courier at 6pm after i waited in all day for them but they arrived well packed and ready to go. As i was all excited i went outside and fitted them with nothing more than a head torch for light but with one minor problem; the left hand link pipe is too big for my headers :confused . I manged to shim the pipe to make it fit but i'm not happy with it as it blows a tiny bit from it. What can i do to rectify this problem? I dont really want to change perfectly good headers, is this normal and should i have a shim of some kind with the exhaust to make it fit?

Either way they look superb, fit superb (apart from the mentioned problem and the indicators were not a problem) and the sound; oooooh the sound is lovely! I will probably sort the cosmetic issues out in the spring as i ride all year round and the bikes usually muddy this time of year.
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JIMMYJAMES wrote:Well a quick update for you: They arrived yesterday by courier at 6pm after i waited in all day for them but they arrived well packed and ready to go. As i was all excited i went outside and fitted them with nothing more than a head torch for light but with one minor problem; the left hand link pipe is too big for my headers :confused . I manged to shim the pipe to make it fit but i'm not happy with it as it blows a tiny bit from it. What can i do to rectify this problem? I dont really want to change perfectly good headers, is this normal and should i have a shim of some kind with the exhaust to make it fit?

Either way they look superb, fit superb (apart from the mentioned problem and the indicators were not a problem) and the sound; oooooh the sound is lovely! I will probably sort the cosmetic issues out in the spring as i ride all year round and the bikes usually muddy this time of year.
Pictures please!
Having not seen the gap you speak of, I'd just put a bigger clamp on it...

http://www.stagonset.co.uk/fasteners?ca ... ose|Clamps
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JIMMYJAMES wrote: As i was all excited i went outside and fitted them with nothing more than a head torch for light but with one minor problem; the left hand link pipe is too big for my headers :confused . I manged to shim the pipe to make it fit but i'm not happy with it as it blows a tiny bit from it. What can i do to rectify this problem? I dont really want to change perfectly good headers, is this normal and should i have a shim of some kind with the exhaust to make it fit?
I had the same problem with my left link pipe also and had to shim it out. I found the standard exhaust clamps don't really have enough strength in them and noticed while trawling ebay someone had fitted a car type exhaust clamp on that joint. So that's what I did, I also used some heat resistant exhaust sealer on those joints too.

The car type exhaust clamps don't look so fancy, but they definitely clamp up a lot better.

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gilson wrote:
Pictures please!
Having not seen the gap you speak of, I'd just put a bigger clamp on it...

http://www.stagonset.co.uk/fasteners?ca ... ose|Clamps
Put it like this, if i pust the pipe on it probably has a gap of just over 1mm all the way round and there is no way it would clamp up. I butchered an old broken stainless exhaust clamp and managed to pack it out and it is clamped down but i hate bodging things plus, there is a very slight blow causing a bit of a backfire on roll off. The guy who had the pipes before me had a much newer model than mine so maybe thats the problem?
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sirch345 wrote: I also used some heat resistant exhaust sealer on those joints too.
I thought that might be the solution, i will probably goop it up tonight to make it gas tight at least. I just hope it all comes apart easy enough if i need to take them off again.
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Put it like this, if i pust the pipe on it probably has a gap of just over 1mm all the way round and there is no way it would clamp up
Rather than using goop (exhaust paste??) why don't you make a gasket around it and then clamp it.
You can either buy some exhaust bandage from a car shop and make your own, or how about adapting the original Honda gaskets. I think the bandage would be stronger and last longer than paste and it will certainly be easier to shape. Just a thought.

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