Sooo after riding my Storm for the last few weeks there just one thing annoying me about it now, and thats the handling! lol
Im a light rider, fully kitted up no more than 11st with a full belly and bladder!
When going round corners I find it really hard to keep a nice tight line, I tend to wallow about a bit and if I dont really muscle the bike Ill end up wide the tighter I try to go!
Ive got the front forks on std honda settings and the rear shock on click 3 and the other std! The bikes done 18k miles now with no fork service in its life! I have noticed the forks have been dropped trough the yokes about 12mm aswell?
So I thought Id try and set the sag the other day but no matter what I did I could not get it to really change from the std settings, and looking at the static and rider sag its at its wayyyyy to soft even for me on the front end, didnt bother with the rear after pissing about with the front!
But just to confirm its the pre-load Im turning in to stiffen the springs and reduce the sag yes? I got it to showing the second ring and it made no difference to when it was showin 4 rings!!!
Soooo anywho, its obvious no matter what I do its not gonna be anywhere near right, so im looking at altering the front forks, Im thinking new Progressive springs and oil to my weight? Much difference? And whos the better company to go with?
What about a different spring for the back?
Im not in a position yet to spend mega bucks on it, this wont be untill after Xmas, but I still really want to get something a bit better for the rest of the year?
Help!!
Suspension options??
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benny hedges
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i put some german made wirth progressive springs in mine and i think a 10 weight oil - very happy with the difference.
the adjusters actually do something now!
got them from wemoto.
they also do hagon (crap i heard) and a few others.
sat on top of my fridge atm is a gorgeous looking black progressive rear spring which i hope does the same for the back end when i get round to fitting it.
mine are also dropped on the front but i took the spacer from under the shock as i dont think it needs it with the fork work.
doesnt wander in corners any more, in fact if anything its a bit too eager!
maybe you should wind the rear down a bit - im 13 1/2 stone in my kit and i have it set on #2 - any more then that it just bounces around, hence the need for the progressive rear spring (yacugar, from ftr suspension)
the adjusters actually do something now!
got them from wemoto.
they also do hagon (crap i heard) and a few others.
sat on top of my fridge atm is a gorgeous looking black progressive rear spring which i hope does the same for the back end when i get round to fitting it.
mine are also dropped on the front but i took the spacer from under the shock as i dont think it needs it with the fork work.
doesnt wander in corners any more, in fact if anything its a bit too eager!
maybe you should wind the rear down a bit - im 13 1/2 stone in my kit and i have it set on #2 - any more then that it just bounces around, hence the need for the progressive rear spring (yacugar, from ftr suspension)
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That sounds promising, I dont expect perfetc razor sharp handling, infact Id not want that on our roads! lol
Do many companies do rear springs, how much did it set you back?
Ive noticed its very very eager to drop into a corner, just a bit sh1t when it gets there, Im thinking it may have a spacer on the back shock, whats the best way or view to see if it has one fitted?
Cheers!
Ohhh, and another thing which bugs me is low speed riding, anything less than 10mph and it feels as if Ive a bit of a flat tyre, bike seems to track and im constantly having to adjust my steering, is this just normal as the bars are lower down compared to my old Bandit and theres more weitt on the bars or do I have an issue?
Do many companies do rear springs, how much did it set you back?
Ive noticed its very very eager to drop into a corner, just a bit sh1t when it gets there, Im thinking it may have a spacer on the back shock, whats the best way or view to see if it has one fitted?
Cheers!
Ohhh, and another thing which bugs me is low speed riding, anything less than 10mph and it feels as if Ive a bit of a flat tyre, bike seems to track and im constantly having to adjust my steering, is this just normal as the bars are lower down compared to my old Bandit and theres more weitt on the bars or do I have an issue?
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benny hedges
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the yacugar spring cost me 80 notes. and if you take your shock to them they will fit the spring to it for free. jolly nice chaps.
theres a 2 week wait tho as they are custom made.
it's the only progressive replacement spring ive seen btw
http://www.yacugar-suspension.co.uk/fitmentlist1.pdf
re the wobbling.... i think you should check the condition of swing arm bushes, rear suspension linkage, wheel bearings and headstock bearings.
all consumable items i might add!
and is your tyre squared?
i felt as though my rear tyre was outhandling the front and making it squirmy so i put some maxxis on and i am very pleased with the roadholding - apart from in the rain lol!!!
theres a 2 week wait tho as they are custom made.
it's the only progressive replacement spring ive seen btw
http://www.yacugar-suspension.co.uk/fitmentlist1.pdf
re the wobbling.... i think you should check the condition of swing arm bushes, rear suspension linkage, wheel bearings and headstock bearings.
all consumable items i might add!
and is your tyre squared?
i felt as though my rear tyre was outhandling the front and making it squirmy so i put some maxxis on and i am very pleased with the roadholding - apart from in the rain lol!!!
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Try front tyre pressure.
It's not falling off, it's an upgrade opportunity.
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Tyres are spot on, were brand new, only real hard use theyve had was at cadwell!
Had it today for a good few hours up the lake district, found that really throwing my weight about helps mass amounts, can actually hold a nice line! lol
After diggin about ive decided to go for a HyperPro spring kit, front first then maybe the rear later, after xmas im thinking a different front end and new rear shock!
As for my slow speed riding been a bit wobbly, after getting the back on the paddock stand and wiggeling thr bars about I can feel a weird noth as the steering gets to center point, turn more and it goes away and becomes nice and free again, its the strangest feeling!
So when I do the forks I'll pop off the yokes and change the headstock bearings, I take it taper bearings are preffered?
Had it today for a good few hours up the lake district, found that really throwing my weight about helps mass amounts, can actually hold a nice line! lol
After diggin about ive decided to go for a HyperPro spring kit, front first then maybe the rear later, after xmas im thinking a different front end and new rear shock!
As for my slow speed riding been a bit wobbly, after getting the back on the paddock stand and wiggeling thr bars about I can feel a weird noth as the steering gets to center point, turn more and it goes away and becomes nice and free again, its the strangest feeling!
So when I do the forks I'll pop off the yokes and change the headstock bearings, I take it taper bearings are preffered?
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benny hedges
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£35 from bitsforbikes - easy to fit, just need a dremel to cut through the bottom inner race on the yoke.nora2004 wrote:
So when I do the forks I'll pop off the yokes and change the headstock bearings, I take it taper bearings are preffered?
you will notice a big difference.
there's a spring guide in the forks as well can cause a knock when you rock the steering with the brake on - not sure what effect it has on the road but cant be good!
if the steering is notchy in the middle it would fail mot anyway so best do it soon as tbh
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firestarter1977
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Just my 2 cents
I've got k tech linear springs, 7.5wt iirc oil, ground taper on rebound, dropped front 6mm,
Rear is hagon with spring matched to my weight and 3mm shock spacer.
Handles bang on, well its fine on the twistys in the peaks... All the rear tyre is used anyhow so I'm happy with it
I've got k tech linear springs, 7.5wt iirc oil, ground taper on rebound, dropped front 6mm,
Rear is hagon with spring matched to my weight and 3mm shock spacer.
Handles bang on, well its fine on the twistys in the peaks... All the rear tyre is used anyhow so I'm happy with it
the thunder rolls on!!!
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Low speed wobble could indicate overtightened head bearings........especially if they are taper rollers. They shouldnt be set with the same instructions in the Haynes manual for the cup & cone standard types.
if they are std cup & cone, then perhhaps they are loose, do you get a clunk when you hit the brakes?
if the bike is tipping in too fast it has a shock spacer fitted, and if you are 11stone, you will not have much race sag on the shock [as the std spring is very stiff], so it will be riding high at the back due to spacer and your weight.
Take out spacer and drop the preload down to lowest setting and see what that does..
Also check to see if the forks are raised in the yokes. in standard setting the spring clips should rest on top of the clipons, and the clip-ons will rest on teh top yoke. It is normal to lower the front end for better turn in, and if this has been done the spring clip groove will be above the clipon by about 3mm.
if they are std cup & cone, then perhhaps they are loose, do you get a clunk when you hit the brakes?
if the bike is tipping in too fast it has a shock spacer fitted, and if you are 11stone, you will not have much race sag on the shock [as the std spring is very stiff], so it will be riding high at the back due to spacer and your weight.
Take out spacer and drop the preload down to lowest setting and see what that does..
Also check to see if the forks are raised in the yokes. in standard setting the spring clips should rest on top of the clipons, and the clip-ons will rest on teh top yoke. It is normal to lower the front end for better turn in, and if this has been done the spring clip groove will be above the clipon by about 3mm.
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