Pretty certain all the Varadero had a cable clutch mike
The hard thing would be to find one
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the new fireblade also has a cable operated clutch afaik... makes you wonder why eh
sure, a hydraulic clutch should be lighter, but if the slave lever is long enough there's no reason a cable clutch has to be heavy.
mine still grabs if i try to take off fast, not got a clue why but can't see how it could be related to the hydraulic actuation?

sure, a hydraulic clutch should be lighter, but if the slave lever is long enough there's no reason a cable clutch has to be heavy.
mine still grabs if i try to take off fast, not got a clue why but can't see how it could be related to the hydraulic actuation?
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I still think that clutch grab is due to wear in the big bearing behind the clutch, and that means an engine strip and separating the crankcase halves.
Cable operation wouldn't make a difference, if I'm right.
But the only way to tell is to find one what does it, strip and replace that bearing, then see.
But no harm in trying the cable-operated conversion to see- if it works it'll be a popular mod, sho'nuff.
Hydraulic= no adjustment needed, impossible to set too taut so clutch lifter bearing overheats and wears out, and/or clutch pushrod and sometimes plates.
Cable= lighter, simpler, no bleeding.
You choose.
Cable operation wouldn't make a difference, if I'm right.
But the only way to tell is to find one what does it, strip and replace that bearing, then see.
But no harm in trying the cable-operated conversion to see- if it works it'll be a popular mod, sho'nuff.
Hydraulic= no adjustment needed, impossible to set too taut so clutch lifter bearing overheats and wears out, and/or clutch pushrod and sometimes plates.
Cable= lighter, simpler, no bleeding.
You choose.

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I expect that's only due to being cheaper to produce than a hydraulic one. Of course I could be wrong.benny hedges wrote:the new fireblade also has a cable operated clutch afaik... makes you wonder why eh![]()
Personally I'd prefer an hydraulic clutch over a cable operated one myself, but an interesting thought Mike (re: that grab problem).
Anyone want to give it a go:-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HONDA-XL1000-1000 ... 3f03ad93cd
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Never really understood why a hydraulic clutch was chosen over the cable operated. The extra weight for the hyd version must be enough of a penalty to make it worth fitting a cable version. Easy adjustment, no air issues, no hygroscopic fluid to cx etc......... Still it visually balances out the Res on the other bar 

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A lot of the SP boys out in the States, or should I say RC51 Boys convert thier RC's over to cable.
Lightness and better feel are the two reported advantages. Personally I can't see it making that much of a difference, I reckon it's mostly bragging rights
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Lightness and better feel are the two reported advantages. Personally I can't see it making that much of a difference, I reckon it's mostly bragging rights

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