what have you done to your "bike" today
- KermitLeFrog
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Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
Fitted a new rear tyre and front and rear pads to the Tuna today.
A little while ago I had a weird brake failure. Coming into a nasty downhill right-hander I suddenly had no front brake. Fortunately I was not going too hard and slowed down enough with the rear. Frantic pumping and the front came back. I stopped and checked but couldn't see anything wrong. I thought it must have been an ABS glitch. However over the next few days I noticed the front was grabby coming to a stop and then I noticed some metal swarf on the rotor.
It turned out the friction material had come off one of the pads. Pumping the brakes had brought the backing plate back up to the rotor and restored function. Just under 8000 miles on the OEM Brembo pads. EBC HH are now installed. I have worn through pads before but never had one fail like this. Food for thought. If genuine Brembo pads can do this what about the cheapo shite you can get?
A little while ago I had a weird brake failure. Coming into a nasty downhill right-hander I suddenly had no front brake. Fortunately I was not going too hard and slowed down enough with the rear. Frantic pumping and the front came back. I stopped and checked but couldn't see anything wrong. I thought it must have been an ABS glitch. However over the next few days I noticed the front was grabby coming to a stop and then I noticed some metal swarf on the rotor.
It turned out the friction material had come off one of the pads. Pumping the brakes had brought the backing plate back up to the rotor and restored function. Just under 8000 miles on the OEM Brembo pads. EBC HH are now installed. I have worn through pads before but never had one fail like this. Food for thought. If genuine Brembo pads can do this what about the cheapo shite you can get?
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I squandered" (George Best, RIP)
Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
snap. i had a set of Brembo pads on the peggy do the same a few months ago , thankfully just after i stopped at the traffic lights and .plink, the outer pad material hit the rim..
the older i get,the faster i was
Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
That must have been rather scary, especially for you Kermit when your's let go. Are you both letting your pads get down too low before replacing them as you could be over heating the bonding that holds the pads to the steel back plate if you're letting them get really low.
I think the days of replacing the pads when you hear metal on metal are long gone although I'm not suggesting either of you do that
Chris.
I think the days of replacing the pads when you hear metal on metal are long gone although I'm not suggesting either of you do that
Chris.
Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
There’s not a lot of meat on Brembo’s when they’re new!!!
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Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
mine had just been fitted by the guy i got the bike from for mot, At most they had about 1k on them..
the older i get,the faster i was
Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
Rode her after the valve adjustments etc .
Noise wise the top end is much better now .
Butt Dyno tells me things are better as well.
Noise wise the top end is much better now .
Butt Dyno tells me things are better as well.
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Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
Investigated why there was no fluid in the clutch res on Custurd...
Clutch was working fine...
So it looks like the slave is leaking a right sticky mess behind the cover, whilst cleaning it up I nioticed a crack in the cover as well...
So first off I stuck a spare slave on it but that leaked as well...DOH
So I borrowd a cover & slave off of Dresden, bolted on, bled up reverse bleeding sorted in less than 10 ...
Adjusted chain, might even give it a clean on Sun/Mon ready for Tues... As I'm actualy going back to work !
Clutch was working fine...
So it looks like the slave is leaking a right sticky mess behind the cover, whilst cleaning it up I nioticed a crack in the cover as well...
So first off I stuck a spare slave on it but that leaked as well...DOH
So I borrowd a cover & slave off of Dresden, bolted on, bled up reverse bleeding sorted in less than 10 ...
Adjusted chain, might even give it a clean on Sun/Mon ready for Tues... As I'm actualy going back to work !
Making up since 2007, sometimes it's true...Honest...
Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
KermitLeFrog wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:23 pm Fitted a new rear tyre and front and rear pads to the Tuna today.
A little while ago I had a weird brake failure. Coming into a nasty downhill right-hander I suddenly had no front brake. Fortunately I was not going too hard and slowed down enough with the rear. Frantic pumping and the front came back. I stopped and checked but couldn't see anything wrong. I thought it must have been an ABS glitch. However over the next few days I noticed the front was grabby coming to a stop and then I noticed some metal swarf on the rotor.
It turned out the friction material had come off one of the pads. Pumping the brakes had brought the backing plate back up to the rotor and restored function. Just under 8000 miles on the OEM Brembo pads. EBC HH are now installed. I have worn through pads before but never had one fail like this. Food for thought. If genuine Brembo pads can do this what about the cheapo shite you can get?
I think you both should report this to Brembo (if you've not already).
I found this online, admittedly a recall regarding the rear pads, but the same problem the bonding letting go:-
Brembo says that its brake pad supplier (Federal Mogul) improperly thermal treated the brake pads at a higher temperature, which resulted in a reduced bonding of the pad material to the backing plate. This was caused by human error.
Above quote taken from this link:-
https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/recall ... ll-ducati/
Chris.
- KermitLeFrog
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Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
Wow! Interesting. Thanks for this Chris. Thankfully I've kept all four pads so I have evidence. I've sent an email to Brembo and my dealer. I'll keep you posted on the response.sirch345 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:53 pm I think you both should report this to Brembo (if you've not already).
I found this online, admittedly a recall regarding the rear pads, but the same problem the bonding letting go:-
Brembo says that its brake pad supplier (Federal Mogul) improperly thermal treated the brake pads at a higher temperature, which resulted in a reduced bonding of the pad material to the backing plate. This was caused by human error.
Above quote taken from this link:-
https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/recall ... ll-ducati/
Chris.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I squandered" (George Best, RIP)
Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
Maybe you can get a nice new pair of Brembo rotors out of this..
- KermitLeFrog
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Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
I have been thinking about that. One rotor is definitely marked.
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Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
Yamaha had the same thing with the early R1's... I know someone who had the same thing happen to him...
Out for a hoon & on the way home at more reasonable speeds (his words...) coming in to a 90* right hander, pads fell out leaving him with no brakes
He went up a curb, up a bank & ended up in a feild... wheel, forks, fairing & other bits totaled all replaced FOC...
Out for a hoon & on the way home at more reasonable speeds (his words...) coming in to a 90* right hander, pads fell out leaving him with no brakes
He went up a curb, up a bank & ended up in a feild... wheel, forks, fairing & other bits totaled all replaced FOC...
Making up since 2007, sometimes it's true...Honest...
Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
That's some scary sh1t. Of all things to fail brakes is not one of them you want failing. Maybe Brembo should start making padded boots so you can put your feet down on the ground if it happens again.
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Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
Your experience could have ended so differently, so I'm glad you have reported it, and that you still have the brake pads.KermitLeFrog wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:16 amWow! Interesting. Thanks for this Chris. Thankfully I've kept all four pads so I have evidence. I've sent an email to Brembo and my dealer. I'll keep you posted on the response.sirch345 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:53 pm I think you both should report this to Brembo (if you've not already).
I found this online, admittedly a recall regarding the rear pads, but the same problem the bonding letting go:-
Brembo says that its brake pad supplier (Federal Mogul) improperly thermal treated the brake pads at a higher temperature, which resulted in a reduced bonding of the pad material to the backing plate. This was caused by human error.
Above quote taken from this link:-
https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/recall ... ll-ducati/
Chris.
Brake failure is serious and should be treated as such.
It's a scary time when you apply the brakes only to find there isn't any. I have not experienced it myself on a bike (I hope I never do) but I have had brake failure in a car many years ago, that was before dual circuit brakes came in.
I'll be interested to hear how things go,
Chris.
Re: what have you done to your "bike" today
well today was spent looking at the yellow one wondering why it wont go. shock horror a storm i own not going
the older i get,the faster i was