I e-mailed Dymag about fitting the carbon CA5 CBR600RR back wheel to my VTR and the (salesman, obviously) chap wrote back that I needed to send the rim in to get it re-hubbed... for a modest fee of course..... yeah right!!!!!!!!! Idiot salesmen are the same everywhere, when they can't answer a tech question (cause most couldn't find their asses if they searched with both hands) , they try to sell you something...... rant over......