What speed does countersteering kick in?

[Pem Brooke]

I know that we subconsciously counter steer our bikes...but only after a certain speed. Often wondered how we kind of just know...practice or just natural? It's a long long time since I first jumped on a motorbike but can remember wobbling around like a drunk until I got the hang of it.

Does the coutersteering kick in around same speed for all bikes, or does it depend on steering geometry etc?

[turbo_billy]

Personally, I think it`s like sh*t. it just happens.......

[lloydie]

I'd say anything from 2mph unless your name is Virt and try to steer around a bend !!

[Pete.L]

Does the coutersteering kick in around same speed for all bikes, or does it depend on steering geometry etc?

You can use it on all bikes. The difference i,s how much you use depends on the geometry and the speed.
If you use as much force at 10 mph as you do at 70 say, you'd throw yourself on the floor. I'ts also dependant on the situation. Do you really need to counter steer at 10mph ( or slow moving traffic) or, if you are on a big lazy bend at 70mph, can't you just lean into the bend and not use any?
I've alwayed used a bit of counter steer to either get the bike over quicker or hold a line I want. Sometimes I use a bit of over steer to keep it more upright. I think it's up to you, your style, and the situation as to how or even if you use it.

Pete.l

[Wicky]

Not very fast...

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[Pete.L]

that's one crazy push bike


We used to sit on our handle bars facing the seat and then peddle up the road. That took a bit of concentration...never had the bottle to try it on a motorbike though

[countrymick]

that would be like trying to ride the storm after 6 pints

[Salty Dog]

that would be like trying to ride the storm after 6 pints

What, you'd need to stop every 15min for a piss

[Jamoi]

They always said "you're the boy who does things backwards" they weren't wrong...

[fabiostar]

that's one crazy push bike


We used to sit on our handle bars facing the seat and then peddle up the road. That took a bit of concentration...never had the bottle to try it on a motorbike though

i tried it on a CR250,, only the once, it went wrong, very wrong

[E.Marquez]

If it has two wheels, round tires and a left right directional front wheel....we press to initiate lean (counter steer) at anything above walking speed.

[Pete.L]

They always said "you're the boy who does things backwards" they weren't wrong...

Wow! thats freekie! That could be me.
Now just imagine a mullet, in shorts, no poxy coat (muscle man T-Shirt). A way cooler push bike and an Embassy No6 hanging out me gob, it really could be
oh, and about 30 years ago

i tried it on a CR250,, only the once, it went wrong, very wrong

At least you tried it, and sometimes doing something only once is definitely the smart thing to do

Pete.l

[Jamoi]

That's a pretty darn cool image you've described there Pete, but good luck without the poxy coat... it was -10 degrees there! lol

[darkember]

Between 10 & 15 mph and it kicks in automatically without you realising it

[bigtwinthing]

I'd say anything from 2mph unless your name is Virt and try to steer around a bend !!

you were being kind to me then Lloydie ta. I agree any speed fast enough not to turn the bars