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crash protection frame sliders

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:16 pm
by monkeymatt
Looking for opinions as I got tired of trying to find good frame sliders without butchering bodywork or having some huge bracket with a blob of nylon sticking out so I am making my own .
Not quite furnished yet but very close.
Aircraft grade aluminium

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Re: crash protection frame sliders

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:41 pm
by vanstub
nice bit of bling
they staying alu or are you powder coating them

Re: crash protection frame sliders

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:08 pm
by monkeymatt
vanstub wrote:nice bit of bling
they staying alu or are you powder coating them

To be honest I'm really not sure .may Polish them as the frame is polished but then again I quite like the idea of powder coating the bracket to give a different contrast

Re: crash protection frame sliders

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:40 pm
by sirch345
Skillful work Matt 8)

Chris.

Re: crash protection frame sliders

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:40 pm
by Duffy1964
They look well smart :thumbup:

Re: crash protection frame sliders

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:10 pm
by fabiostar
very nice :thumbup:

Re: crash protection frame sliders

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:00 am
by lloydie
Wouldn't like to take that on a track day !!!
Looks pucka tho

Re: crash protection frame sliders

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:17 am
by macdee
Very nice work you should have a few up on here for sale
how does the Alu compare to plastic on the sliding end of things ,would it be more or less friction

Re: crash protection frame sliders

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:27 am
by VTR Phoenix
They look smart. I was also looking for the same but also swing arm and fork ones. Not sure what they cost you to make but maybe if you sold them and maybe offered anodised options as well?

Maybe a bit of testing though as macdee says. Don't want them to dig in and catapult the bike on a slide.

If you consider making to sell let me know a price as would be interested.

Re: crash protection frame sliders

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 12:46 pm
by monkeymatt
VTR Phoenix wrote:They look smart. I was also looking for the same but also swing arm and fork ones. Not sure what they cost you to make but maybe if you sold them and maybe offered anodised options as well?

Maybe a bit of testing though as macdee says. Don't want them to dig in and catapult the bike on a slide.

If you consider making to sell let me know a price as would be interested.

Funnily enough after I have finished these off the next project will be fork and swingarm sliders again in alu and probably anodised to match the colours of the bike .
As for friction what i can say is the nylon sliders stand up very well I just found the main supports tend to bend or snap off all together. Without throwing a bike down the road on its side to get a comparison what I done was put a nylon slider on a bench grinder and watched it dissappear. Also done the same on the aluminium end I made as they are a "soft" metal they wear just as much but it takes longer for them to wear away .
As for pressure testing on a set of nylon frame sliders initially I found they bent very easily as the main strength was the bolt fixing .
I have done the same with what I have made up yes the strength is the bolt fixing however due to the area being far bigger I. E these sit on top of the fame lattice not just a bolt they didn't bend .
On both cases tho if any frame slider was to bend it would probably result in the frame being beyond repair however at least my engine may survive.

Re: crash protection frame sliders

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:12 pm
by agentpineapple
be careful matt, you came very close to sounding intelligent in your last post...... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: crash protection frame sliders

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:55 pm
by TravisZack
I didn't fancy cutting the fairing either so bought GSG crash protectors, which I'm guessing these are based on. A bit of 1mm rubber matting on the frame side stops the top of the mount and grub screws digging in to the metal (or in my case powdercoat) and creates a snug fit. They almost disappear when painted black too.

You can see the rubber matting here
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I used plastidip, which has held up well
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Re: crash protection frame sliders

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:32 pm
by monkeymatt
TravisZack wrote:I didn't fancy cutting the fairing either so bought GSG crash protectors, which I'm guessing these are based on. A bit of 1mm rubber matting on the frame side stops the top of the mount and grub screws digging in to the metal (or in my case powdercoat) and creates a snug fit. They almost disappear when painted black too.

You can see the rubber matting here
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I used plastidip, which has held up well
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195 usd wow
Look very similar. I just didn't want to chop the bodywork nor have huge brackets over the frame.
I have tried to turn them into part of the bike not just an added extra that has been added and looks out of place.not many good sets available anymore for the storm.

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Re: crash protection frame sliders

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:40 pm
by monkeymatt
Today I've polished and powder coated the bracket .
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Re: crash protection frame sliders

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:36 pm
by TravisZack
They were £100, but the only ones that took my fancy!

Yours look good :thumbup:
monkeymatt wrote:I have tried to turn them into part of the bike not just an added extra that has been added and looks out of place
are you painting the frame black too?