master cylinder

Zer0Zer0 · Post by **Zer0Zer0** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:12 am

I cant find the thread about changing the master cylinder. as opposed to the calipers.. for improved braking..pointers please....

iggy1966 · Post by **iggy1966** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:11 pm

Martin,
This what your after??

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mainly it is down to master cylinder and ampliying ratios.
Put on master from RC51 and you will be amazed with difference.
Why they got it wrong on VTR - have no clue....
Basically I heard from some guys who tried it that combination of VTR pistons, braided lines, good pads and RC51 master cylinder makes VTR brakes completely satisfying.

Zer0Zer0 · Post by **Zer0Zer0** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:28 pm

Hmmmm.. RC 51 .. im sure the thread mentioned the master cylinder from a fireblade, as a straight swap. without having to change the calipers etc?

iggy1966 · Post by **iggy1966** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:10 pm

I think that they are the same Martin,

They both go straight on if memory serves me right, anyone feel free to jump in here if you know different.

Zer0Zer0 · Post by **Zer0Zer0** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:08 pm

DUH.. found the thread i was looking for ....the master cyl. from SP1/2 will apparently give one finger braking...NICE..now i like the sound o that..

Pete.L · Post by **Pete.L** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:21 am

I'll vouch for em.
Nearly threw me over the handle bars the first time I used them in ernest. One finger definately advisable, grab a handful and it could get messy(and I am still talking about braking ).
If I'd known how good they were I would have put a set on my Storm straight away.

Pete.l

Zer0Zer0 · Post by **Zer0Zer0** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:41 pm

thanks for the input chaps..still collating opinions at the mo..ill let you know what i decide to do if anything.......

delta1 · Post by **delta1** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:37 pm

just wandering what the result would be if you were to get a fireblade master cylinder AND put on sum gsxr600 calipers, would there be even more of an improvement or not...

also anyone got any suggestions for the back brake can u do a similar thing ie gsxr caliper and cylinder?

Stormin Ben · Post by **Stormin Ben** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:52 am

I personally can't see the reason for a more powerful master cylinder.

Fit some braided hoses and decent pads and most importantly, clean the calipers regularly!
Then there's more than enough stopping power with only two fingers, yet you can scrub off speed while leant over coz they've also got feel and finesse

Ben

Zer0Zer0 · Post by **Zer0Zer0** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:52 am

ive got both calipers and a master cylinder waiting to be fitted...ive been bitten by the modding bug , so i guess this is where it starts..i find the brakes on my storm fade badly after about a dozen laps on circuit..and it was only serviced last weekend...dont know weather ill do both tho...?

delta1 · Post by **delta1** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:22 am

think im gonna try it too....if its not for me can always go back a step...ah the wonders of ebay lmao

Stormin Ben · Post by **Stormin Ben** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:25 am

Zer0Zer0 wrote:..i find the brakes on my storm fade badly after about a dozen laps on circuit..and it was only serviced last weekend...

That'll be EBC HH brake pads will it?
That was the problem I had so went looking for replacements

Carbone Lorraine SBK3's
- ace on track, no fade (in fact the opposite, they come on stronger as they get hotter. Lovely lovely lovely)
- crap on road coz they don't get hot enough

Bendix supersport
- Great on track although not quite as good as the CL's
- Good on road (not quite as much initial bite as the EBC's)

Carbone Lorraine A3's
- Great on track. Not as good as SBK3's but still no fade
- Great on road. Work from cold, in the wet but still not quite as sharp as the EBc's at the initial bite point

Ben

Zer0Zer0 · Post by **Zer0Zer0** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:30 am

i take it that having a set of "racing pads for trackdays " and road pads for the road wouldnt' be such a good idea?

Stormin Ben · Post by **Stormin Ben** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:53 pm

Don't see why not, wouldn't be any more hastle coz I remove the pads and clean my calipers before every one anyway

Just make sure you release the pressure in the brake system after you swap over (thicker pads will push the pistons back more than normal and if you don't release the pressure they'll drag and warp your disks)

Alternatively, bleed the system with the thicker pads in and that way you'll not have the problem. Just remember to pump the pads back out again BEFORE setting off -had a moment at Cadwell last year as I whistled into the collecting area having just swapped the wheels

Ben

delta1 · Post by **delta1** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:32 pm

would the master cylinder off a 92-02 fireblade be the same as the rc51? and give the same improvements?