VTR track bike conversion

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Re: VTR track bike conversion

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I wonder if they count brush guards as enough?
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Kev L wrote:
Jamoi wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:47 pm Hi Gilson, R.E: brake lever guard...

A trackday requirement now, although not sure I've ever heard of someone actually coming off due to brake lever contact! But, I'm sure it happens.

I've just fitted an "RRC" brake lever guard, purchased via eBay. I think he's a Brit, just making a few bits on a small scale.

It's much cheaper than Rizoma, gilles, R&G etc, but imo just as good quality.

I went for the CNC with the solid tip, bolts straight into my KTM clipon with an expanding wedge type fitting.

Hope that helps anyway!

Pictured below (short lever now swapped to a long lever!!) Image
Snetterton track day motorcyclist Barry Pritchard 'died doing what he loved'


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-56168067
Oh dear...
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tony.mon wrote:I wonder if they count brush guards as enough?
I'd say thet offer more protection.
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Jamoi wrote:Hi Gilson, R.E: brake lever guard...

A trackday requirement now, although not sure I've ever heard of someone actually coming off due to brake lever contact! But, I'm sure it happens.

I've just fitted an "RRC" brake lever guard, purchased via eBay. I think he's a Brit, just making a few bits on a small scale.

It's much cheaper than Rizoma, gilles, R&G etc, but imo just as good quality.

I went for the CNC with the solid tip, bolts straight into my KTM clipon with an expanding wedge type fitting.

Hope that helps anyway!

Pictured below (short lever now swapped to a long lever!!) Image
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Kev L wrote: Snetterton track day motorcyclist Barry Pritchard 'died doing what he loved'


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-56168067


That's really sad man.
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I did a search for slipper clutches and this company will sell me one.

https://www.moto-vision.com/en/clutch/4 ... 97-03.html

They have confirmed it will take 3 weeks for their supplier to restock.

Sigma state the firestorm Slippers are out of production.

I was under the impression that they are not made anymore.

What are your thoughts chaps? Is it reasonable to assume this is legit?
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gilson wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:44 pm I did a search for slipper clutches and this company will sell me one.

https://www.moto-vision.com/en/clutch/4 ... 97-03.html

They have confirmed it will take 3 weeks for their supplier to restock.

Sigma state the firestorm Slippers are out of production.

I was under the impression that they are not made anymore.

What are your thoughts chaps? Is it reasonable to assume this is legit?
It took me ages but I eventually found a Sigma one second hand. I nearly bought a TSS one in the meantime but procrastinated so much they sold out. Sigma are indeed out of production for the Storm and they have no spares, been down that road.

There's a company in the States who make them and they are very similar to the Sigma - Yoyodyne https://www.yoyodyneti.com/product-p/t19303.htm
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Thanks very much Nick. I'm just procrastinating at the moment.

I want to have a track day with it pretty much standard, just lightened a little, then add fabio's flywheel, then perhaps a slipper. My wife used to go to the states a few times a year, but that's unlikely for a while.

Thanks for replying, I was thinking I'd asking you directly on your other post but didnt want to bother you.
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You can probably still get an SP1 or SP2 clutch from Sigma, then all you need to do is modify the storm clutch cover to take the SP style clutch cover.
It's much better anyway, the clutch cover on an SP has a porthole style cover on the case so it's easy to pull off and make any clutch changes easily and quickly, without having to disturb the water pump.
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tony.mon wrote:You can probably still get an SP1 or SP2 clutch from Sigma, then all you need to do is modify the storm clutch cover to take the SP style clutch cover.
It's much better anyway, the clutch cover on an SP has a porthole style cover on the case so it's easy to pull off and make any clutch changes easily and quickly, without having to disturb the water pump.
Hi Tony, You can get an SP slipper but that's about all I understood from your post Image.

I'm nervous about going in the other side and changing the flywheel! I can follow a Haynes manual but don't have any skills to "make things fit". Some of the skills shown on this forum are astounding to me. Now that I have a bike again, I've no excuses not to learn.

Cheers!

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This is what I meant. The SP2 clutch cover is split into two pieces, so in order to access the clutch you only have to pull off the circular cover, instead of the whole clutch cover and water pump.
PXL_20210327_113723001.NIGHT.jpg
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So if you cut the base from an old Storm one and welded on the SP outer section you could access the clutch more easily- plus you could fit the larger SP clutch.
And no, the oil level isn't low, it's on the sidestand so you don't need to drain the oil, or risk drips of coolant dripping into the sump as you remove it or reassemble.
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tony.mon wrote:This is what I meant. The SP2 clutch cover is split into two pieces, so in order to access the clutch you only have to pull off the circular cover, instead of the whole clutch cover and water pump.
PXL_20210327_113723001.NIGHT.jpg
PXL_20210327_113850313.jpg
So if you cut the base from an old Storm one and welded on the SP outer section you could access the clutch more easily- plus you could fit the larger SP clutch.
And no, the oil level isn't low, it's on the sidestand so you don't need to drain the oil, or risk drips of coolant dripping into the sump as you remove it or reassemble.
I understand, thank you. I seem to remember the Stage 3 bike having a separate bolted on clutch cover, probably for easy access for the reason you mentioned.

Thanks for taking the time to post that. I will keep this on memory.
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gilson wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:28 pm
tony.mon wrote:This is what I meant. The SP2 clutch cover is split into two pieces, so in order to access the clutch you only have to pull off the circular cover, instead of the whole clutch cover and water pump.
PXL_20210327_113723001.NIGHT.jpgPXL_20210327_113850313.jpg
So if you cut the base from an old Storm one and welded on the SP outer section you could access the clutch more easily- plus you could fit the larger SP clutch.
And no, the oil level isn't low, it's on the sidestand so you don't need to drain the oil, or risk drips of coolant dripping into the sump as you remove it or reassemble.
I understand, thank you. I seem to remember the Stage 3 bike having a separate bolted on clutch cover, probably for easy access for the reason you mentioned.

Thanks for taking the time to post that. I will keep this on memory.
your right the stage 3 had a separate cover at least from the pictures iv seen of it, i believe the new owner of said bike is on here and could confirm, there is a guy on the facebook groups who has made one that was selling it a while back but not sure if he is on here? il try and find his name as its slipped my memory just atm :thumbup:
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fabiostar wrote:
gilson wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:28 pm
tony.mon wrote:This is what I meant. The SP2 clutch cover is split into two pieces, so in order to access the clutch you only have to pull off the circular cover, instead of the whole clutch cover and water pump.
PXL_20210327_113723001.NIGHT.jpgPXL_20210327_113850313.jpg
So if you cut the base from an old Storm one and welded on the SP outer section you could access the clutch more easily- plus you could fit the larger SP clutch.
And no, the oil level isn't low, it's on the sidestand so you don't need to drain the oil, or risk drips of coolant dripping into the sump as you remove it or reassemble.
I understand, thank you. I seem to remember the Stage 3 bike having a separate bolted on clutch cover, probably for easy access for the reason you mentioned.

Thanks for taking the time to post that. I will keep this on memory.
your right the stage 3 had a separate cover at least from the pictures iv seen of it, i believe the new owner of said bike is on here and could confirm, there is a guy on the facebook groups who has made one that was selling it a while back but not sure if he is on here? il try and find his name as its slipped my memory just atm Image
Thanks Fabiostar.
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gilson wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:24 pm Thanks very much Nick. I'm just procrastinating at the moment.

I want to have a track day with it pretty much standard, just lightened a little, then add fabio's flywheel, then perhaps a slipper. My wife used to go to the states a few times a year, but that's unlikely for a while.

Thanks for replying, I was thinking I'd asking you directly on your other post but didnt want to bother you.
Well if you ever need something shipped from the states....just ask, it's no problem :beer:
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