Oops, I just bought a firestorm. What do I tell the missus?

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Re: Oops, I just bought a firestorm. What do I tell the miss

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That's a bit of a bu**mer. Lets hope they get to the bottom of what's wrong :!: Nice to have the update :thumbup:

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Re: Oops, I just bought a firestorm. What do I tell the miss

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Keep us informed of what cures it eventually. :thumbup:
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Re: Oops, I just bought a firestorm. What do I tell the miss

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Ding, Ding.. round two...

So i've got the bike back and thought it was fixed, but now a few days later the new clutch is grabbing again :-/ At this point the dealers seem to be unable to fix the problem. They're taking a 4th look at it next week, but this is starting to turn in to a cycle.

Called Chiswick honda and explained the problem to them and they basically said "then don't rev it to 4k rpm and slip the clutch", which wasn't very helpful. They reckoned I should be wheelying the bike at that point and it's not designed to do that, and that drag racers who do that replace the clutch after every race. I've never wheelied it even when trying to reproduce this problem at 4krpm so I don't I've explained the problem correctly or maybe they don't really care to give the information away for free.

Speaking to other mates, they reckon the problem could be with the clutch servo engaging the clutch incorrectly.

I don't know, it's way out of my knowledge of mechanics, i just want to be able to occasionally slip the clutch a little bit at 4Krpm without lifting the front wheel uncontrollably and hearing a sound of imminent doom coming form the engine.

sigh...
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Re: Oops, I just bought a firestorm. What do I tell the miss

Post by tony.mon »

Well, I did, and still do. It's fair to say that the Vee Twin format will cause less problems with this sort of fault than almost any other engine configuration, because there's so much torque; you can short-shift and use the torque instead.

But when you're trying for a fast launch there's no other way to do it than slipping the clutch, and that's when this problem happens.

The other time is when you need to make a fast-closing gap, you're in a gear too high and don't have time to change down (I know, you should have thought of that, but we all get caught out sometimes). Then, slipping the clutch to get a bit more oomph is what 's required, and getting a sudden lock-up is unnerving.

I have to say, once fixed you'll enjoy the bike a lot more.

I tried replacing all clutch bearings, filing tangs, another 2nd hand clutch, all to no avail.

So keep at them, as Timbo says, if it ain't right don't accept it. And Honda's comment is just stupid.

Would they say that if the brakes weren't working then don't brake? Pathetic.

Ultimately, of course, you can reject it as unfit for purpose- advice FOC from Citizen's Advice website.
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