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SMITH MEISTER wrote:Hi Wicky, thanks for the info.
Looks like going topless (pardon the pun) is going to be more trouble than it's worth.
Perhaps just the K&N + re-jet on standard airbox is the way to go. I do have after market cans as well, but thats it as far as engine mod's go. I would like to fit the jet kit myself, but I'm worried about getting the set up right.
Is it worth the dyno time or can it be done via trial & error method. :confused
Superhawkforum.com (Keep in mind that US forumites are very anti-K&N)

Carb removal and jetting changes

http://www.superhawkforum.com/forums/kn ... ges-13841/

Carb set up

http://www.superhawkforum.com/forums/te ... -up-24769/


Here's my set-up (green bog standard - black with K&N,Cans & rejetting and after dyno fettling)

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Thanks Wicky, that's alot of info to absorb from the superhawk site! 8O
I see by looking at your dyno sheet you only gained a couple of horses after the mods, can you tell any REAL difference with that 2hp?
Just wondered, because it's starting to look like a lot of expense for not much gain! (K&N=£60, dyno jet kit= £90ish + some dyno time at £ ?? per hr) Mmmm, have to think long & hard abt this one.

Thanks again for your input!! :D
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Removing the lid will ruin (and I mean RUIN) the air flow.
Give it a go round the block to see what I mean- you probably won't get it off the drive.....

But I'm currently trying once again using a prototype MWR Racing filter, which does away with the lid, and needs two short stacks to run.
I'll be posting in Workshop as to how it goes- we'll see.

But a K+N can be made to fuel very well.
I'd really suggest dyno time; it's a long process if you try to do it by seat of the pants tuning.

But if you look in the workshop sticky section I posted a thread about Factory Pro jet kits with a link to setting carbs up; that might be worth a read through.
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Hi Tony, spent some time reading ur posts. You are a VERY busy man!! I don't have the time (or money) to do anywhere near the amount the amount of work you have put into your storm. I have decided to follow your advice & forget the airbox mod for now. I will stick to the K&N + jet kit route. Only one question, which kit is best? Lot's of people swear by "Dynojet" but you mentioned "Factory pro jet" Is one better/cheaper/easier etc, or is it just personal preference. Obviously "Pro jet" are for the yank market & "Dynojet" are widely available in the UK, is that the only difference? Also some people suggest just shimming up the stock needles, is this a wise move?
I know technically that's 3 questions, but it's all the same subject! :wink:
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I went Factory Pro for a few reasons, but I honestly don't think there's much in it.
FP don't need holes drilled in the slides, so are easily removed if you sell the bike, or want to go back to std.
FP use the std springs as well.

Either one will need a good tech to set it up on the dyno, but for me the clincher was that FP use "real" jet sizes, whereas Dynojet use a slightly different numbering system, so if you needed a jet that DIDN'T come with the kit, you couldn't just go up or down a size without doing a complicated conversion.

As I have mine rejetted after each bit of development work it would be a pain.

You can get the FP kit (and ignition advancers, too) from Big CC Racing, the importer.
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hello mate, id try and make it go round corners quicker!
good luck
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Hi Tony,
sorry to keep bothering you, but do you know where I can get hold of the "Factory pro" jet kits in the uk?
I've tried BIG CC racing, (they don't list anything) I've also tried Straightline racing, but their email doesn't work & they don't answer the phone. :confused

Is it possible to just fit the jets & needles from a dynojet kit but not drill the slides? (I don't like the idea of mutilating bits in the carbs)

Thankyou for your very valuable time on this, much appreciated. :thumbup:
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http://www.factorypro.com/prod_pages/prodh77.html

According to their international distributors page there isn't an official UK importer

http://www.factorypro.com/about/distributor.html

Though there is a German stockist

BD performance
Bernd and Barbara Dewald
Workshop: Am Vorderfloess 22, D-33175 Bad Lippspringe
Office: In der Masch 20, D-33175 Bad Lippspringe

info@bdperformance.net
http://www.bdperformance.net

or Spain

Dream Machine S.L.
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Spain

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Well guys, I've taken the plunge!!
Ordered the 1.1Ti kit & a +4 deg ignition advancer direct from Factory pro themselves. Cost abt £150, but may have to pay VAT when it arrives :cry: Hope not, as I asked them to mark as "a gift" so may be able to avoid paying the tax man!
On a totally different theme, has anyone tried fitting a digi gear indicator?
I bought an Acumen DG8, but can't get the damn thing to work!! I've sent it back to them, but they claim to have tested & all is fine?
I'm an auto electrician by trade, so I know I wired it right, just wondered if anyone else had experienced similar problems with their storm?
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SMITH MEISTER wrote: On a totally different theme, has anyone tried fitting a digi gear indicator?
I bought an Acumen DG8, but can't get the damn thing to work!! I've sent it back to them, but they claim to have tested & all is fine?
I'm an auto electrician by trade, so I know I wired it right, just wondered if anyone else had experienced similar problems with their storm?
Yes, I fitted mine. I doubt I'll be able to offer much help seeing as you're an Auto Electrician, but here goes anyway :) What exactly did it or didn't it do? Did it go through the set-up procedure OK :?:

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The data tool digi gear was easy to wire in and set up . Works very well and it dims at night :)
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SMITH MEISTER wrote:Well guys, I've taken the plunge!!
Ordered the 1.1Ti kit & a +4 deg ignition advancer direct from Factory pro themselves. Cost abt £150, but may have to pay VAT when it arrives :cry: Hope not, as I asked them to mark as "a gift" so may be able to avoid paying the tax man!
On a totally different theme, has anyone tried fitting a digi gear indicator?
I bought an Acumen DG8, but can't get the damn thing to work!! I've sent it back to them, but they claim to have tested & all is fine?
I'm an auto electrician by trade, so I know I wired it right, just wondered if anyone else had experienced similar problems with their storm?
I posted a "how-to" for the DG8 in the Workshop Knowledgebase section.
Apologies, though, you were right, it wasn't Big CC, it was Straightline who were the importer.
I haven't had anything off them for over a year, though, so they could have gone under.
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Hi sirch, the problem was that it wouldn't learn the gear ratio's. Followed the instructions, (start bike, press& hold prog key till "L" appears, then 6 more presses for No. of gears, then put into 1st and bring rev's up to 3000rpm or so & wait for next gear to flash on display....) Nothing, not a sausage, would not move beyond No.1 flashing on display :(
I'm going to ring them again tmrw & see what they have to say.
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SMITH MEISTER wrote:Hi sirch, the problem was that it wouldn't learn the gear ratio's. Followed the instructions, (start bike, press& hold prog key till "L" appears, then 6 more presses for No. of gears, then put into 1st and bring rev's up to 3000rpm or so & wait for next gear to flash on display....) Nothing, not a sausage, would not move beyond No.1 flashing on display :(
I'm going to ring them again tmrw & see what they have to say.
It seems like the unit is not getting the info required for it to work as it should. I'm probably going over what you already know, but double check your connections especially the earth (-) and live (+) wires. I presume you are wiring it in under the speedo pod. I did have a problem with mine at first (different to yours) which resulted in taking the live (+) feed from one of the block terminals that sits in behind the front fairing, instead of a live (+) on the back of the pod that I originally used. The block terminal live (+) I used was a heavier gauge wire.

If you've not already I'd recommend soldering all the connections.

Lets us know how you get on, and good luck with it,

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welcome ....sorry a late welcome but a welcome all the same :lol: :lol:
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