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Hi All, been reading up on the calliper debate but thought I would give the standard stuff a chance first. Since upgrading the fork spring have found myself floating up to things faster than expected, pads are around 3.2mm but could well be the originals 1999 - 2000 as it's only done 11k. Have taken on board advice on cleaning pistons and it does have Good-ridge hoses all round but what pads do you recommend for general road use.
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Being a complete brake nerd, I have tried just about every make and compound of pads known to man over the last 6 years, and Brembo are far and away the BEST road pads I have used.
Not much meat on them from new, but worth every penny.
Combine this with their LCF600 fluid and you'll be over the handlebars in no time!! :)
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Jonesey wrote:Being a complete brake nerd, I have tried just about every make and compound of pads known to man over the last 6 years, and Brembo are far and away the BEST road pads I have used.
Not much meat on them from new, but worth every penny.
Combine this with their LCF600 fluid and you'll be over the handlebars in no time!! :)
Chris.
i second that, i used to think ahhhh your just paying for the name, nope they actually are fantastic Brembos

i would not go back to entry level priced pads ever again
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Rather than start a fresh thread with the same kind of questions I thought I would ride on this thread.

I need to sort out my rear disc, I got an advisory on the MOT and still have not gotten around to it. :oops: Moneys been tight and to be honest, how often do we really use the rear? So reading above I gather the Brembo pads are the best. No probs I can get me some of them. For the disc what do you guys think to this one:?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-1999-VT ... 963wt_1185


Yay or nay?

Or

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BREMBO-SERIE- ... _696wt_952

The OEM ones seem to be around the same price. The Armstrong ones and EBC ones seem to be more expensive.
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Thanks Chris and seb will give them a go asap, out of curiosity are you both running standard callipers and mc's.
Ta Greg

Sorry Seb I just twigged on your signature so obviously not.
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GREG-STORM wrote:Thanks Chris and seb will give them a go asap, out of curiosity are you both running standard callipers and mc's.
Ta Greg

Sorry Seb I just twigged on your signature so obviously not.
Its the 330mm rotors off an RR3 but now using Kagizume discs they are really good, made in Japan not china like some other stuff on eBay

954 Callipers and the Brembo Road Pads (the red ones) made such a difference over the stock 954 callipers and discs, my dad who has an RR3 blade was very impressed when he took mine for a spin, its a heaver bike than the blade but stops a hell of a lot quicker now

I also use HEL brake lines, if you don't have Braided lines already then that is something i would look at doing at the same time as pads.

if you want your callipers like new as well contact jonsey i think for a fee he will service them and replace what is required if need be, when i get some time off work and he can fit it in i will defo be taking him up on the offer.
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pinkyfloyd wrote:Rather than start a fresh thread with the same kind of questions I thought I would ride on this thread.

I need to sort out my rear disc, I got an advisory on the MOT and still have not gotten around to it. :oops: Moneys been tight and to be honest, how often do we really use the rear? So reading above I gather the Brembo pads are the best. No probs I can get me some of them. For the disc what do you guys think to this one:?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-1999-VT ... 963wt_1185


Yay or nay?

Or

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BREMBO-SERIE- ... _696wt_952

The OEM ones seem to be around the same price. The Armstrong ones and EBC ones seem to be more expensive.

Hi i have these on the front of mine

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VTR1000-VTR-1 ... 500wt_1044

Bloody fantastic once scrubbed in, going to be getting this for the rear when funds allow.
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I've got SP1 calipers on mine coupled with a Brembo RCS master cylinder and goodridge lines all round, it's a set up I'm really pleased with.
Caliper servicing is still available. :D
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I looked at those too Seb but I was put off partly by the price and partly by a few reviews that said they warped pretty fast. All sorted though. Brake disk has been donated by someone and it will save me much needed pennies. Pinky's purse strings are tight at the moment.
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Pinky, the first one you posted had a library picture on it- that was a front disc. Rear's aren't fully floating, no buttons, no offset and so can be made from a single flat piece of stainless. Hence the lower price than fronts.

The Brembo picture (second link) shows you what you'll actually get.

Just didn't want anyone to be disappointed if they ordered the Demon Tweeks one.

Anyway, you're sorted now, and tbh as you say, it's rarely used anyway.
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Tony. I knew the Demon pic was a standard. Showed a front disc. I wasnt aware that the 2 links had the same disc as they were 2 different retailers. Cleared it up for me should I need to order a new one though or for anyone else that wishes to order one. :thumbup:

I'll be ordering a paddock stand when I get paid so I can whip the wheel off and argue with the disc bolts. Now, and forgive me if its a silly question. Can I use the bolts again or is it best to buy new ones. Just trying to get all the info I can before I remove the wheel. I'm as mechanically minded as a lemon with 2 left hamfists so forwarned is forarmed so to speak.
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Use the bolts again no problem mate. Just remember to use a little bit of thread lock when refitting. I used to used allen keys but found out that the socket set allen keys cause less hassle when removing tight bolts as you get more purchase with them.

Off the top of my head I cant remember the rear disc allen bolt size (think it could be 5mm)

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The front bolts are a std sort, but the rear have shoulders on; don't use just any bolt.
M8 x 22 long, with a 6mm shoulder.

Not all aftermarket bolts suit the rear- be careful.
Most Honda bikes use the same bolt type and size, larger ones, anyway, so Blade, CBX, CB all fit, just search for "rear disc bolt Honda"

There are also lightweight Titanium ones available for £14 for six.
You'll have two left over.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6-Titanium-Re ... 537wt_1163

You can find cheaper Ti ones, but mostly from abroad.
Probably worth getting two sets, (12 bolts) and splitting the cost equally with two other owners.

Less than a tenner the set! :thumbup:
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pinkyfloyd wrote:I looked at those too Seb but I was put off partly by the price and partly by a few reviews that said they warped pretty fast. All sorted though. Brake disk has been donated by someone and it will save me much needed pennies. Pinky's purse strings are tight at the moment.
I think it would take some doing to warp a rear disc tbh as most your pressure is applied on the front, My front original RR3 Discs got warped, I've given these Kagizume Discs some abuse and they haven't buggered up yet, it was the reviews i read on them that persuaded me to buy them
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seb421 wrote:
pinkyfloyd wrote:I looked at those too Seb but I was put off partly by the price and partly by a few reviews that said they warped pretty fast. All sorted though. Brake disk has been donated by someone and it will save me much needed pennies. Pinky's purse strings are tight at the moment.
I think it would take some doing to warp a rear disc tbh as most your pressure is applied on the front, My front original RR3 Discs got warped, I've given these Kagizume Discs some abuse and they haven't buggered up yet, it was the reviews i read on them that persuaded me to buy them
Funny thing is that you notice front brakes binding on really easily, but it's harder to spot rear calipers binding.

So it's not that unusual to find a bike with a blued rear disc, and the pads worn away.
You'd think people would notice, but I suppose you just compensate with more throttle.
It's not falling off, it's an upgrade opportunity.
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