CCT change workshop day?

[alternative_vtr]

Hi, please forgive the CCT title as I have done my homework and it must be the number topic on this forum but bear with me and keep reading

I am new to here so forgive me if this is a daft idea. But........ it seems to me the number one issue people want to deal with when getting a Storm is the cam chain tensioners. It's also the number one issue people are a bit wary about doing themselves and maybe unsure what place to take the bike to, do they understand how to do the job and will they get charged a fortune. What about a seperate workshop day just for CCT changing? For example the host amateur mechaninc who will tell us plebs what to do and provide tea and coffee could be paid £20 by each of us dummies for the help and use of spanners, if say 5 people had theirs done on a Sunday morning we would have a laugh, get our bikes done properly and the host would earn a cool £100. I would be up for it (I am the dummy by the way - not the mechanic)

These CCT days could be held severla times a year in different regions. Could do a rectifier/regulator coffee morning too? Having specific task workshop days keeps it simple for the person holding the event and more people can be shown at once. If it was arranged and everyone purchased their CCT adjusters then turned up with some biscuits and some spare spanners it would work well.

I can't make the workshop day this Saturday as I work Saturdays and getting them off is almost impossible but if another day were arranged in the midlands to do CCT's and or Regulators/Rectifiers I would be up for it as I am frightened about doing them myself and doing it wrong.

Shoot me down if this has been done or suggested - I am ducking now

[VTRDark]

This is was happens now with the exception of financial transactions and not being CCT Specific. The problem with making a workshop day specific to a certain task is that there will never be enough people in one area to make it worth while. So Workshop days are generally open to do/change whatever you wish within time and reason. Or just turn up to meet other members and socialise.

I would not worry too much about not getting yours done this weekend as where your live, there are plenty of members around and you can organise to meet at someone's house or they will pop round to you to lend a hand if needs be. If you fancy having a go on your own, there will always be someone you can phone for advice if you get stuck/confused.

Making a workshop day specific to a certain task IMO is not a good idea. And as far as charging a fee, well that goes against the ideas and principles of holding a workshop day. But all donations would be welcome.

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[alternative_vtr]

Yes, maybe not so good an idea then. I would happily donate some cash, I think it's only fair if I go round someones house and they are good enough to help me. If anyone fancys a go at helping me with mine I will gladly give them some money to go for a few beers on me.

[StormingHonda]

The way workshops days are supposed to work, is that you do your own work and someone guides you through the task, when you need help. The best way to learn mechanics is to get your hands dirty and learn off your own back, with workshop days you also get to watch other jobs being done, this is how I worked out how to do the regulator conversion, not that its hard but actually seeing it done helped me.

I am no mechanic but can get myself out of trouble and do servicing tasks, this I have learnt off my own back.

Mechanical work isnt hard however its often diagnosing a problem thats causes the most agro, unless you have extensive knowledge of these models in perticular some are even down right mystifying.

I am running a workshop day in August your more than welcome to join in and do the CCTs with people who have fitted them.

[lumpyv]

not long now till the workshop up near you anyway is it? if you go to that im sure someone will see you right an you will have an enjoyable day. the trouble with making it too specific is that not everyone can make a definate commitment to come and also it might rain/snow on the day

[AMCQ46]

Alternative VTR,
I think the workshop days that we now do [creidt to Tony.mon for initiating the idea] are to achieve exactly what your describing, but we have found that it is easy enough to cover more than one type of task in the day, as we end up with a couple of experts on hand and the tricky bits are only about 20% of the work, the rest is just stripping down and rebuilding the bike.

we also try an run them on a good karma basis, rather than for money, as the expert is giving knowledge not labour, and at some point we know that we will get the help back when we need a part in a hurry or in many other ways........it is what sets this Forum apart from any other I know

your main problem is we do it on a Saturday incase we need to get to a bike shop for some emergency parts, and you cant get off on a Saturday

If you cant get to the next one down in essex on a Saturday, but you know one end of a spanner from the other, then have a very good read on the instructions and I would happily let you have my mobile number so you can call me to talk you through any issues you hit as you go through the process. If you dont know 1 end of a spanner from the other, then you should contact Tony.mon and he will do the work for you at his house for the cost of the labour.

or pull a sicky on 21st and come to mine.........it sounded to me like you were comming down with the flu

[VTRDark]

we also try an run them on a good karma basis, rather than for money, as the expert is giving knowledge not labour, and at some point we know that we will get the help back when we need a part in a hurry or in many other ways........it is what sets this Forum apart from any other I know

Spot on, I could not have put it better myself. Good Karma, I like it Good wind up's, banter, stickers and rubber gloves

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[alternative_vtr]

Thanks guys, no I understand it's me that would do the work but it's having the guy with me to tell me what to do / give me tips and guide me that I need. The money thing is just a thank you but yes I would always try and help people out myself without wanting to be paid. Saturdays are not just a case of pulling a sickie, I own a shop and I have to open it - this recession is tough enough without loosing the only day people come in and buy so no I can't have a Saturday off I am afraid, Saturdays are the equivalent of 5 weekdays in the business I am in.

Thanks for the mobile phone number offer, that is great. I think when my manual CCT's arrive I will have a think about it then. I can get a weekday or a Sunday off reasonably easily. I will put a post on here and see if anyone fancies helping me for an hour or two within a 100 mile radius and see if I can ride to them when it is convenient.

Thanks for the help so far fellas

[StormingHonda]

not long now till the workshop up near you anyway is it? if you go to that im sure someone will see you right an you will have an enjoyable day. the trouble with making it too specific is that not everyone can make a definate commitment to come and also it might rain/snow on the day

I got a garge that can house a couple of bikes that need to be undercover.

[AMCQ46]

Thanks guys, no I understand it's me that would do the work but it's having the guy with me to tell me what to do / give me tips and guide me that I need. The money thing is just a thank you but yes I would always try and help people out myself without wanting to be paid. Saturdays are not just a case of pulling a sickie, I own a shop and I have to open it - this recession is tough enough without loosing the only day people come in and buy so no I can't have a Saturday off I am afraid, Saturdays are the equivalent of 5 weekdays in the business I am in.

Thanks for the mobile phone number offer, that is great. I think when my manual CCT's arrive I will have a think about it then. I can get a weekday or a Sunday off reasonably easily. I will put a post on here and see if anyone fancies helping me for an hour or two within a 100 mile radius and see if I can ride to them when it is convenient.

Thanks for the help so far fellas

Right, I see your problem, you cant afford to to close the shop on a Saturday, that puts your livelyhood at risk and we dont want that. So what does your shop specialise in, lets wee if we can establish a bartar system

[VTRDark]

lets wee if we can establish a bartar system

Now I know your getting old but there is no need to go weeing over his shop.

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[tony.mon]

Can I just say thanks to everyone?

I started this ws day idea to do exactly what has been said in this thread.
As lots of you know I (in between ws days) will happily undertake work on people's bikes, but I charge for it then (usually about 1/2 dealer rates).

But the basic ethos was all about sharing the knowledge, and letting owners work on their own bikes without risk of doing something silly, and letting people develop knowledge and confidence.

I'm so pleased it's taken off the way it has; and I'm deliberately keeping at arm's length for a while to let others pick up the torch.

Well done to all of you.
etc

[VTRDark]

And the knowledge spreads. This is what the biking community is all about.

Other bike forums may even follow the idea and eventually the dealers and garages will have to drop their prices.

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