thoughts please..

[gl_s_r]

Was having a think about things with the timing lugs/whatever they are called that get stuck in the case and another alternative.

Anyways.. after thinking I made this:



The idea being that the threaded ring gets screwed into the case and this is aluminium. I am going to bond it in with Loctite or similar or as time goes by am I sure it will get stuck like everything else screwed into the case.

Will look like this when/if I do it:



Popped a nitrile 'O' ring in it for sealing.. also made it the right size to sit into the counterbore in the case.

Then I should be able to screw the new cap into it and tighten with a 13mm socket so it looks like this:



This cap also sits in the biggest counterbore of the case and looks flush when tightened and the 'o' ring compressed.. this was only finger tight.

So... the thinking is that I can still get a 17mm socket through the middle for timing etc, a 13mm socket to tighten and untighten the bung.. and as they are the same material and nicely anodised there should be no oxidisation/galling etc and the problem of the bung getting stuck in the case through mismatch of materials ( that other people have stated is the cause) should hopefully be there no more? The 13mm hex I was hoping should also be more of a positive drive.

The internal thread would be M26x1.5 and I have seen other sump plugs etc in this size and other blanking caps from other applications so should be able to find alternatives for the bung a bit easier.

Here is a cross section of the bung and I am sure it should be strong enough with these wall thicknesses.



also for Tony's sake I have a picture here as I know he likes to know these things... this is the whole assembly.



I'd welcome any thoughts good or bad so I can maybe refine it etc before anodising and bonding it into the bike...

[VTRDark]

Very neat and a good solution for those with the carbon covers. Maybe for aesthetics put some small countersunk holes in the cap to match the smaller cap. Now I know why you needed the socket dimensions.

(:-})

[agentpineapple]

looks good mark, a clever bit of engineering...
hows the bike coming along?
have you fitted the exhaust yet???

[gl_s_r]

The carbon cover in pure aesthetics and has nothing to do with this solution I am thinking of.. it would fit the standard casing without a carbon cover.

Hello again Marty, the bike is coming along slowly and hasn't budged for a while as too busy but it may be a little better soon as work is starting to slow down with the start of race season.. as for the exhaust, have them fitted at the moment and made some new hangers etc but will be taking them off and putting the old system back on..

Yours is reserved for another background project where it will be better served

This look better then?

[BigVeeGrin]

looks the dogs and I'm guessing the smaller one is of the Mk1 type hence the difference. Neat solution with a neat design in my mind.

[VTRDark]

Very nice.

(:-})

[lloydie]

very nice work again .
but i still like the titanium more

[tony.mon]

very nice work again .
but i still like the titanium more

But I still weighed the titanium as weighing more....

[tony.mon]

Nice, and good thinking/design.
I particularly like the idea of fitting a cap to sit fairly flush with the bored Carbonadi cover- looks much neater than the recessed std option.
I was thinking of a plastic cap, similar to the one in the SA over the pivot bolt head/nut.

Or for the well-heeled and flash owner, a half-sovereign pressed in. Heavy, but it makes a statement, n'est pas?

The hex head could also be lightly drilled/patterned to maintain the look.

Or a little http://www.vtr10000.org logo etched on.... you know you want to....

Mark have you reached that time of year when you have time on your hands again?

[YETI]

Very nice
The gear linkage looks different as well
looks like youve been busy

YETI..

[darkember]

I do like them but still prefer the older titanium ones. BTW whats the point in weighing it. The turd you forgot to leave behind will weigh more than that

[Kev L]

The reason for the attention to weight is poor old Mark has a little Kentish devil sitting on his shoulder demanding that anything he produces in Ti or Alloy should weigh less than the original, irrespective of superior performance. Just to give a a couple of clues to the identity of the taunting one, he is the culprit for much dubious wordplay on this fine forum, he is the author of numerous technical and helpful responses to readers problems and his login is similar to Mony-Ton.

[agentpineapple]

if you forgot to leave a turd behind, wouldn't you still have it with you.....

[tony.mon]

The reason for the attention to weight is poor old Mark has a little Kentish devil sitting on his shoulder demanding that anything he produces in Ti or Alloy should weigh less than the original, irrespective of superior performance. Just to give a a couple of clues to the identity of the taunting one, he is the culprit for much dubious wordplay on this fine forum, he is the author of numerous technical and helpful responses to readers problems and his login is similar to Mony-Ton.

Yes, indeedy.
However to my lasting shame, and causing me to lose sleep at night, I have fitted the excessively heavy and monstrously overweight plugs that Mark made for my bike because they look lovely. I've had to cut several fingernails back to the quick to compensate, and the beard has had to go, but it's worth it.

[Kev L]

Get a Brazilian and ask Mark to make you up some Ti Vajazzle bits.